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  2. Rob

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    I ordered directly from Martin in Tjechië.
  3. Peter Elsea

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    I emailed Mr. Lee for more information. I’m waiting to hear back. No deposit yet, but I am irrationally excited!
  4. Eric Greenwell

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    Did your order directly from the factory? Everyone in the US got their glider with no problems.
  5. Rob

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    Sorry to mention this, i ordered my phoenix in November 2016 , paid half of the plane. untill today did not received anything. Martin stepanik is NEVER answer a phone . and very seldom answers my mails. So be careful
  6. Eric Greenwell

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    The US dealer's website is https://phoenixairusa.com/instrument-panels
  7. mikeschumann

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    Jim Lee knows all the owners. I think there is a disgruntled owner who is currently selling a Phoenix in the DC area that has had one or two accidents. Not sure it would be something I would be interested in. Jim would have more insight. Good luck.
  8. Peter Elsea

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    Wow, thank you so much for the in-depth reply. That’s very very helpful. I am 6 feet tall, so the longer cocked it would mean a lot to me. I will get in touch with the Phoenix rep in Minden. I would love to know if any Phoenix owners live in New England! Again, thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly! cheers, Peter
  9. mikeschumann

    Comparing Phoenix to Sundancer

    Jim Lee in Minden NV is the US importer for the Phoenix Motorglider. His support is absolutely exceptional. Martin Stepanek, the owner of Phoenix Air was one of the main designers of the Lambada Motorglider, which I believe is the predecessor of the Sundancer. When Lambada went out of business, Martin started Phoenix Air and developed the Phoenix Motorglider, which fixed a couple of key problems with the Lambada. The Phoenix Motorglider has a couple of HUGE advantages vs its competitors, that I personally feel are absolute show stoppers: 1. With the wingtips removed, the Phoenix wingspan is 35', so it will fit in any standard US T-Hangar. Competitive motorgliders with removable wingtips typically have wingspans of just over 40' with the tips removed, and will NOT fit in a hangar with a standard 40' door. 2. Compared to the Lambada, the Phoenix has a longer cockpit, so it is much more comfortable for long flights. I am 5' 11". Five + hour flights are absolutely no problem for me in the Phoenix. In the Lambada, the distance to the rudder pedals was a couple of inches less than in the Phoenix, which made for a very uncomfortable experience on longer flights. If you poll the Phoenix owners in the US, you will find tremendous enthusiasm, not only for the aircraft, but also the support that is provided by Jim Lee here in the US. It's absolutely amazing at how much parts inventory he has in Minden. I would strongly recommend that you take a really hard look at the Phoenix and get a ride in one before you make your final decision. The biggest problem is the lead time in getting a new aircraft. Used Phoenix's are very rare. So don't delay on getting one on order, if you want to get a new one.
  10. I’m looking for input from the pilots on this forum, to help me decide which TMG to choose. I have read about the Phoenix and like it a lot. I do not know if there’s a dealer in the US, as all my answers have been from the Czech Republic when I email the company. The Sundancer also looks very good, very similar at least on paper to the Phoenix. They have an office in California. I am interested in performance differences, maintenance or body structure issues, usefulness of the adoptable wing set up, etc. I posted a similar question on the Sundancer part of the forum and nobody answered. So I thought I would try this group. any feedback would be most appreciated! Peter Easthampton MA
  11. Hans

    ULF-2 Motorglider...?

    May be you can find something similar here: http://www.air-souris-set.fr/ it`s french, a family of light motorized wood planes. Very interesting
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  13. Gfeldman

    dual battery trickle charging

    Thanks so much Jim and Eric. This is exactly the info I need. George
  14. Eric Greenwell

    dual battery trickle charging

    You can also use the panel power outlet: select the battery you want to charge with the Battery Master switch (on the package shelf) turn on the Panel Master Switch the battery you selected is now connected to the panel power outlet plug the charger into the panel power outlet charge at 4 amps or less, due to 5 amp fuse on power panel outlet
  15. Jim Lee

    dual battery trickle charging

    George, Most Phoenix including yours, come with a dual battery and battery switch system, also incorporating a power outlet next to the battery switch. Normal switchology is thus: pointer forward=forward battery ("1"). Pointer rearward=rear battery ("2"). Both is to one side and Off is to the other side. You use and charge in flight either the forward, rearward, or both batteries at the same time. The power outlet on the rear shelf is wired directly to the forward battery with a 5 amp fuse. No matter where the battery selector switch is, you will always use the forward battery with the power outlet. You can plug a battery charger into the power outlet to charge the forward battery. If you select "both" on the battery selector switch, you can charge both batteries with the charger in the power outlet. If you select either "1" or "2" you are isolating the two batteries, and you will only charge the forward ("1") battery. It is not possible to charge only the rear battery with the power outlet. If you are charging both batteries at the same time, use a LiFePo charger which works fine with lead acid batteries. Do not use a lead acid charger with desulfate capability as this will ruin the LiFePo battery. A small amperage trickle charger is best, on the order of 1 amp or so.
  16. My Phoenix, like most, has a dual battery. One is a sealed lead acid and the other a lithium battery. One is located directly behind the passenger seat and the other far aft behind the baggage compartment netting. The 4 position switch behind the passenger side head rest controls current flow. How can I selectively trickle charge each battery without removing them? Is there an easy way to distinguish which is which? George Feldman N33GF
  17. brasov

    Ridge soaring Brasov IS28M2

  18. brasov

    ridge soaring comb ridge

  19. Peter Elsea

    Pheonix vs Sundancer?

    I'm itching to get into the TMG world. As of now i'm a power pilot but getting my soaring ticket this year. It seems the the Sundancer and Pheonix are similar. What would you say is the selling point of one over the other? i have spoken to the AIRUSA rep in CA, but i'm not sure Pheonix has a rep in the US... Thanks in advance! Peter Easthampton MA
  20. brasov

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  21. mikeschumann

    Skyview Ammeter Shunt

    It appears that you can also wire a second shunt or hall effect sensor into an unused Skyview input and setup the display so that it shows both total, and net battery amperage. Another interesting thing that I discovered in researching the detailed technical info available on the Odyssey Battery website, is that the regulator voltage that the ROTAX engine puts out while running at 3,000+ RPM (13.8V) doesn't meet their recommended deep discharge charging voltage (14.2 - 14.7V), so I am questioning whether or not my batteries are ever getting fully charged when I turn the engine on after a soaring flight with the motor off. I'm going to start using a battery charger after each soaring flight. That should give me a pretty good idea of what the charging state of the battery is without rewiring anything.
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