Alternator Changing Problem....Again - Feb 2004

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same intermittent problem has
resurfaced. For no particular reason, the system stops charging, and then abruptly starts
again. It'll bounce on, then off, then on..stay on and go off.

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Date:         Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:11:19 -0500
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From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      alternator charging problem...again

I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same intermittent problem has
resurfaced. For no particular reason, the system stops charging, and then abruptly starts
again. It'll bounce on, then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year. It worked perfectly for a
year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this problem, and that should be
replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce
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Date:         Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:53:43 -0800
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From:         Roland Martin <roland_martin@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again
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Bruce,

A couple of years ago, I had a problem like you. One day, the alternator seem
to work, the next day the amp-meter was below zero.

I got a new regulator. This fixed the problem.

Regards, Roland.



--- Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:
> I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone else
> having this issue?
>
> Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
> intermittent problem has
> resurfaced. For no particular reason, the system stops charging, and then
> abruptly starts
> again. It'll bounce on, then off, then on..stay on and go off.
>
> Lovely.
>
> I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year. It
> worked perfectly for a
> year, but today started acting up.
>
> Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this problem,
> and that should be
> replaced as well?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> your faithful listserver,
>
> Bruce


=====
Roland Martin
7 Spring Lane
Chadds Ford, PA 19317 USA
(610) 558 7852

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I have a wron tail wheel swivel and wondering if anyone has nay luck renovating this spring release at the bottome of the wheel assembly. The system works by using a small h/tensile steel apul that pushed against a srping leaf on the rudder assembly collar.
John

Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:
I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same intermittent problem has
resurfaced. For no particular reason, the system stops charging, and then abruptly starts
again. It'll bounce on, then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year. It worked perfectly for a
year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this problem, and that should be
replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce

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From:         Horst Stratmann <horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM>
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I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:10:17 -0000
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Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again
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I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator just to be on the safe side.

regards

Ken Haslett

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:43:35 -0500
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Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Greg Finlay <GFinlay@RIM.NET>
Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again
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Yikes, what is the root cause for the frequent failure of these voltage =
regulators?
I had intermittent charging issues for over a year as well.
I discovered one of the yellow wires going to the voltage regulator was =
not inserted properly. I was only held in by the insulating boot, and =
eventually worked it's way almost off. I don't know if I came from the =
factory like this or not, but it didn't really solve the charging =
issues. The voltage regulator was eventually replaced, but I've only =
flown it home from the annual, so I don't know if my problems are fixed =
yet as the ammeter still barely moves more than a needle width.

How far does your ammeter move and does it change with added loads?

Wonder if that improper connection caused the VR to fail and both =
ignition modules? Might explain the flaky artificial horizon flag as =
well. I guess we'll see in the spring.
I don't fly in the winter any more, between the tail dragger on icy =
runways, and all the gel coat cracking... I'll stick to the traditional =
winter sports.

Anyone had the gelcoat removed and refinished in polyurethane?


Cheers,
        Greg=20
C-GXMJ AMT200-54

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Haslett, Kenneth (Ken) [mailto:haslett@LUCENT.COM]=20
Sent:   Monday, March 01, 2004 11:10 AM
To:     XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject:        Re: alternator charging problem...again

I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be =
a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator =
just to be on the safe side.

regards

Ken Haslett

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce
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Greg,
I have installed a voltmeter which is plugged into the auxiliary power
socket on the right side and it gives you very accurate information
about the battery status whilst soaring and charging status under power,
much better than the ammeter.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Greg Finlay
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:44 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


Yikes, what is the root cause for the frequent failure of these voltage
regulators? I had intermittent charging issues for over a year as well.
I discovered one of the yellow wires going to the voltage regulator was
not inserted properly. I was only held in by the insulating boot, and
eventually worked it's way almost off. I don't know if I came from the
factory like this or not, but it didn't really solve the charging
issues. The voltage regulator was eventually replaced, but I've only
flown it home from the annual, so I don't know if my problems are fixed
yet as the ammeter still barely moves more than a needle width.

How far does your ammeter move and does it change with added loads?

Wonder if that improper connection caused the VR to fail and both
ignition modules? Might explain the flaky artificial horizon flag as
well. I guess we'll see in the spring. I don't fly in the winter any
more, between the tail dragger on icy runways, and all the gel coat
cracking... I'll stick to the traditional winter sports.

Anyone had the gelcoat removed and refinished in polyurethane?


Cheers,
        Greg
C-GXMJ AMT200-54

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Haslett, Kenneth (Ken) [mailto:haslett@LUCENT.COM]
Sent:   Monday, March 01, 2004 11:10 AM
To:     XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject:        Re: alternator charging problem...again

I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be
a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator
just to be on the safe side.

regards

Ken Haslett

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce
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Date:         Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:06:27 +0000
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Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again

That's exactly what I have done as well. Much better than an ammeter.

Best
Ted Gordon
> Greg,
> I have installed a voltmeter which is plugged into the auxiliary power
> socket on the right side and it gives you very accurate information
> about the battery status whilst soaring and charging status under power,
> much better than the ammeter.
>
> Regards
>
> Horst Stratmann
> UPC Interpipe, Inc.
> Tel:  512 266 0132
> Fax: 512 266 0133
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
> Behalf Of Greg Finlay
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:44 AM
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again
>
>
> Yikes, what is the root cause for the frequent failure of these voltage
> regulators? I had intermittent charging issues for over a year as well.
> I discovered one of the yellow wires going to the voltage regulator was
> not inserted properly. I was only held in by the insulating boot, and
> eventually worked it's way almost off. I don't know if I came from the
> factory like this or not, but it didn't really solve the charging
> issues. The voltage regulator was eventually replaced, but I've only
> flown it home from the annual, so I don't know if my problems are fixed
> yet as the ammeter still barely moves more than a needle width.
>
> How far does your ammeter move and does it change with added loads?
>
> Wonder if that improper connection caused the VR to fail and both
> ignition modules? Might explain the flaky artificial horizon flag as
> well. I guess we'll see in the spring. I don't fly in the winter any
> more, between the tail dragger on icy runways, and all the gel coat
> cracking... I'll stick to the traditional winter sports.
>
> Anyone had the gelcoat removed and refinished in polyurethane?
>
>
> Cheers,
>         Greg
> C-GXMJ AMT200-54
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   Haslett, Kenneth (Ken) [mailto:haslett@LUCENT.COM]
> Sent:   Monday, March 01, 2004 11:10 AM
> To:     XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject:        Re: alternator charging problem...again
>
> I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be
> a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator
> just to be on the safe side.
>
> regards
>
> Ken Haslett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
> Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again
>
>
> I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
> everything is working fine.
>
> Regards
>
> Horst Stratmann
> UPC Interpipe, Inc.
> Tel:  512 266 0132
> Fax: 512 266 0133
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
> Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject: alternator charging problem...again
>
>
> I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
> else having this issue?
>
> Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
> intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
> system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
> then off, then on..stay on and go off.
>
> Lovely.
>
> I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
> It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.
>
> Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
> problem, and that should be replaced as well?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> your faithful listserver,
>
> Bruce
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Horst,
How long will your battery last whilst soaring and what is the miminum volt reading that you can go to before restarting the engine may be a problem?
John wall
Horst Stratmann <horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
Greg,
I have installed a voltmeter which is plugged into the auxiliary power
socket on the right side and it gives you very accurate information
about the battery status whilst soaring and charging status under power,
much better than the ammeter.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel: 512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Greg Finlay
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:44 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


Yikes, what is the root cause for the frequent failure of these voltage
regulators? I had intermittent charging issues for over a year as well.
I discovered one of the yellow wires going to the voltage regulator was
not inserted properly. I was only held in by the insulating boot, and
eventually worked it's way almost off. I don't know if I came from the
factory like this or not, but it didn't really solve the charging
issues. The voltage regulator was eventually replaced, but I've only
flown it home from the annual, so I don't know if my problems are fixed
yet as the ammeter still barely moves more than a needle width.

How far does your ammeter move and does it change with added loads?

Wonder if that improper connection caused the VR to fail and both
ignition modules? Might explain the flaky artificial horizon flag as
well. I guess we'll see in the spring. I don't fly in the winter any
more, between the tail dragger on icy runways, and all the gel coat
cracking... I'll stick to the traditional winter sports.

Anyone had the gelcoat removed and refinished in polyurethane?


Cheers,
Greg
C-GXMJ AMT200-54

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Kenneth (Ken) [mailto:haslett@LUCENT.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:10 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again

I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be
a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator
just to be on the safe side.

regards

Ken Haslett

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel: 512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce

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John,

I am using a Gill G35s (sealed) battery. I have been soaring with it
over 4 hours and never had a problem to start the engine. I have the
radio, transponder and elect. vario on and sometimes the GPS..

I just replaced the battery ( over 2 years old) as it would not hold a
good charge and the low voltage light came on shortly after shutting the
engine off and my Ilec vario showed only 20 % battery capacity after
about 1 hour of soaring. The voltmeter showed 11.3 but the engine still
started without problem.

The new one shows 12.5 v after abt. 1 hour soaring.





Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel:  512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of john adbon
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:08 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


Horst,
How long will your battery last whilst soaring and what is the miminum
volt reading that you can go to before restarting the engine may be a
problem? John wall Horst Stratmann <horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
Greg, I have installed a voltmeter which is plugged into the auxiliary
power socket on the right side and it gives you very accurate
information about the battery status whilst soaring and charging status
under power, much better than the ammeter.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel: 512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Greg Finlay
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:44 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


Yikes, what is the root cause for the frequent failure of these voltage
regulators? I had intermittent charging issues for over a year as well.
I discovered one of the yellow wires going to the voltage regulator was
not inserted properly. I was only held in by the insulating boot, and
eventually worked it's way almost off. I don't know if I came from the
factory like this or not, but it didn't really solve the charging
issues. The voltage regulator was eventually replaced, but I've only
flown it home from the annual, so I don't know if my problems are fixed
yet as the ammeter still barely moves more than a needle width.

How far does your ammeter move and does it change with added loads?

Wonder if that improper connection caused the VR to fail and both
ignition modules? Might explain the flaky artificial horizon flag as
well. I guess we'll see in the spring. I don't fly in the winter any
more, between the tail dragger on icy runways, and all the gel coat
cracking... I'll stick to the traditional winter sports.

Anyone had the gelcoat removed and refinished in polyurethane?


Cheers,
Greg
C-GXMJ AMT200-54

-----Original Message-----
From: Haslett, Kenneth (Ken) [mailto:haslett@LUCENT.COM]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:10 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again

I had the same problem for nearly a year. In the end it turned out to be
a dry solder joint in the circuit. We replaced the voltage regulator
just to be on the safe side.

regards

Ken Haslett

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann [mailto:horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM]
Sent: 01 March 2004 15:55
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


I had the same problem and installed a new voltage regulator and
everything is working fine.

Regards

Horst Stratmann
UPC Interpipe, Inc.
Tel: 512 266 0132
Fax: 512 266 0133





-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:11 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: alternator charging problem...again


I've got an intermittent charging problem...one more time. Is anyone
else having this issue?

Having replaced the stator assembly, again, only last year, the same
intermittent problem has resurfaced. For no particular reason, the
system stops charging, and then abruptly starts again. It'll bounce on,
then off, then on..stay on and go off.

Lovely.

I've replaced the stator twcie -- once for an SB, and again last year.
It worked perfectly for a year, but today started acting up.

Is it possible that a bad voltage regulator is contributing to this
problem, and that should be replaced as well?

Many thanks,

your faithful listserver,

Bruce

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Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 2004 18:04:15 -0500
Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again

I bought a new stator and a new voltage regulator, and have just replaced the voltage regulator.

Of course, it seems to be working just dandy. I'll wait till the gremlins re-emerge to replace the
stator.

I'm curious. My Garmin 195 indicates that a fully-charged battery reads about 13.5 volts.

Is this a normal reading?

Bruce
Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:23:52 -0700
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From:         "jim.durango SB" <jim.durango@STARBAND.NET>
Subject:      Re: alternator charging problem...again
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Hi Bruce,

The 13.5 volts is correct when the engine is running as that is about the
alternator voltage output.

Cheers  Jim McCann


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Schimmel" <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: alternator charging problem...again


> I bought a new stator and a new voltage regulator, and have just replaced
the voltage regulator.
>
> Of course, it seems to be working just dandy. I'll wait till the gremlins
re-emerge to replace the
> stator.
>
> I'm curious. My Garmin 195 indicates that a fully-charged battery reads
about 13.5 volts.
>
> Is this a normal reading?
>
> Bruce
>