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  • But once you join XOG , I believe you will recognize that there is a
    continuing problem about getting reliable information.  There are too
    many questions that go unresolved.

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    Date:         Tue, 6 Dec 2005 07:14:07 -0500
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Factory Service/Representative
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623)
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    Dear Claudio,

    Thank you for writing. At your request, I have added your name to the
    XOG list.

    I understand from your email that you do not wish to authorize the XOG
    listserv as an official outlet.

    But once you join XOG , I believe you will recognize that there is a
    continuing problem about getting reliable information.  There are too
    many questions that go unresolved.

    Ximango owners clearly need a single, factory authority on technical
    matters.

    My hope is that Aeromot will still designate an authorized technician,
    and make him available in some formal way.

    May I ask you to consider doing this?

    My thanks,

    Bruce Schimmel

    215 923 7978
    bruce@schimmel.com
    www.schimmel.com
    http://citypaper.net/articles/current/canon.shtml

    On Dec 6, 2005, at 06:15, cviana@aeromot.com.br wrote:

     > Dear Bruce,
     >
     > Chuck copied me on his message to you regarding XOG; we agree =
    entirely
     > with him to the point that it should be left the way it is, i.e., an
     > informal exchange of ideas and experiences among Ximango owners,
     > without interference of the factory or of the Distributor.
     >
     > However, as we are always interested in what is going on regarding
     > operation of Ximangos, as well as how we are behaving toward our very
     > valued customers, I request you to please install AEROMOT on XOG,
     > specifically my own address =A0- =A0cviana@aeromot.com.br.
     >
     > Thanks and regards,
     >
     > Cl=E1udio B. Viana
     > President - AEROMOT
     >
     >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:11:24 -0700
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         William Cotton <cotton@ATMOS.COLOSTATE.EDU>
    Subject:      Re: Factory Service/Representative
    In-Reply-To:  <66efe429f7b9b0c19abd0b81706da32c@schimmel.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi Bruce:

     Can you arrange to have me take off the XOG mailing list? I sold my
    Ximango this summer. Bill

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:14 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Factory Service/Representative

    Dear Claudio,

    Thank you for writing. At your request, I have added your name to the
    XOG list.

    I understand from your email that you do not wish to authorize the XOG
    listserv as an official outlet.

    But once you join XOG , I believe you will recognize that there is a
    continuing problem about getting reliable information.  There are too
    many questions that go unresolved.

    Ximango owners clearly need a single, factory authority on technical
    matters.

    My hope is that Aeromot will still designate an authorized technician,
    and make him available in some formal way.

    May I ask you to consider doing this?

    My thanks,

    Bruce Schimmel

    215 923 7978
    bruce@schimmel.com
    www.schimmel.com
    http://citypaper.net/articles/current/canon.shtml

    On Dec 6, 2005, at 06:15, cviana@aeromot.com.br wrote:

     > Dear Bruce,
     >
     > Chuck copied me on his message to you regarding XOG; we agree
    entirely
     > with him to the point that it should be left the way it is, i.e., an
     > informal exchange of ideas and experiences among Ximango owners,
     > without interference of the factory or of the Distributor.
     >
     > However, as we are always interested in what is going on regarding
     > operation of Ximangos, as well as how we are behaving toward our very
     > valued customers, I request you to please install AEROMOT on XOG,
     > specifically my own address =A0- =A0cviana@aeromot.com.br.
     >
     > Thanks and regards,
     >
     > Cl=E1udio B. Viana
     > President - AEROMOT
     >
     >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:42:02 -0500
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Factory Service/Representative
    In-Reply-To:  <001501c5fa77$52a75f40$26315281@chinook>
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623)
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    dear bill,

    you can log in and do it yourself easiest.

    cheers, Bruce

    On Dec 6, 2005, at 10:11, William Cotton wrote:

    > Hi Bruce:
    >
    >  Can you arrange to have me take off the XOG mailing list? I sold my
    > Ximango this summer. Bill
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    > Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:14 AM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: Factory Service/Representative
    >
    > Dear Claudio,
    >
    > Thank you for writing. At your request, I have added your name to the
    > XOG list.
    >
    > I understand from your email that you do not wish to authorize the XOG
    > listserv as an official outlet.
    >
    > But once you join XOG , I believe you will recognize that there is a
    > continuing problem about getting reliable information.  There are too
    > many questions that go unresolved.
    >
    > Ximango owners clearly need a single, factory authority on technical
    > matters.
    >
    > My hope is that Aeromot will still designate an authorized technician,
    > and make him available in some formal way.
    >
    > May I ask you to consider doing this?
    >
    > My thanks,
    >
    > Bruce Schimmel
    >
    > 215 923 7978
    > bruce@schimmel.com
    > www.schimmel.com
    > http://citypaper.net/articles/current/canon.shtml
    >
    > On Dec 6, 2005, at 06:15, cviana@aeromot.com.br wrote:
    >
    >> Dear Bruce,
    >>
    >> Chuck copied me on his message to you regarding XOG; we agree
    > entirely
    >> with him to the point that it should be left the way it is, i.e., an
    >> informal exchange of ideas and experiences among Ximango owners,
    >> without interference of the factory or of the Distributor.
    >>
    >> However, as we are always interested in what is going on regarding
    >> operation of Ximangos, as well as how we are behaving toward our very
    >> valued customers, I request you to please install AEROMOT on XOG,
    >> specifically my own address =A0- =A0cviana@aeromot.com.br.
    >>
    >> Thanks and regards,
    >>
    >> Cl=E1udio B. Viana
    >> President - AEROMOT
    >>
    >>
    >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:42:29 -0500
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Factory Service/Representative
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623)
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

    Dear Claudio --

    I'm delighted you'll be monitoring our conversations on XOG. =46rom your
    explanation below, I also now have a much better understanding of how
    you see your role in the exchange. It makes sense to me.

    Also good is to have a designated factory authority, Luiz Castilho.
    Luiz has been a great help to me personally for years. Now everyone
    knows about his valuable advice.

    Thanks for your help,

    Sincerely,

    Bruce

    On Dec 8, 2005, at 08:12, cviana@aeromot.com.br wrote:

     > Dear Bruce,
     >
     > Thanks for your prompt action on adding our name to the XOG list.
     > However, don't take me wrong: what happens is that many matters do =
    not
     > require any comment, others represent a personal opinion which also =
    do
     > not require any action otherwise we would be doing nothing, but
     > modifying Ximangos to suit everybody's desires, but others are a real
     > contribution to improve the product, and will be considered and
     > commented accordingly. However, everybody is obviously free to =
    express
     > their thoughts, and this is what we mean by saying that XOG will not
     > be considered an official outlet, but a free form where everybody is
     > welcome to express their thoughts without any constraints.
     >
     > Now, as the formal side: the single, factory authority on technical
     > matters is our Chief Engineer, Luiz Castilho,
     > lcastilho@aeromot.com.br; I'll be personally involved also, as we =
    make
     > a point of giving full attention to the reports and suggestions of =
    our
     > valued customers
     >
     > Best regards,
     >
     > Cl=E1udio B. Viana
     > President - AEROMOT


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