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  • Glad to hear you walked away from your landing incident with no personal
    injury. Thanks for the additional info on what led up to the hard landing. What
    type of damage was done to the landing gear, wing, fuselage, ect.?

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    Date:         Fri, 6 May 2005 14:04:44 -0400
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    Subject:      Northeast Safari

    Dear All:

    As noted in previous posting, in July I will be travelling in my Ximango
    to several soaring sites in the Northeast. Counting myself, four Ximango
    owners have indicated interest. I've outlined the plans in this posting to
    encourage anyone else who wants to fly the route or meet along the way to
    join up. Just drop me a note.

    Best
    Ted
    email: tedjgordon@att.net



    JUNE 29. I FLY FROM HARTFORD (HFD) TO LACONIA NH

    Stay in Laconia 6/29 until July 4. Soar White Mountains

    Laconia NH (LCI) has two long runways at right angles; tower. No landing
    fees. Hangar space uncertain, but if available $25/ night. Car rental but
    call ahead. . Hotel B Maes 603 293 7526 near airport.


    JULY 4: FLY FROM LACONIA TO MONTPELIER

    Stay in Montpelier from 7/4 until 7/8 Soar at Sugarbush.

    Barre Montpelier VT (MPV) 802 223 2221 has two long runways; non-towered;
    car rental through Enterprise 802 479 5400; $5/ night tie down. No landing
    fees Limited hangar space, but call ahead. Hotel- Comfort Inn 802 229 2222
    low rates.


    JULY 8 FLY FROM MONTPELIER TO PITTSFIELD

    Stay in Pittsfield from 7/8 until 7/12 soar Mt. Greylock

    Pittsfield MA(PSF):413 443 6700: two long runways; non- towered; car
    rentals; no landing fee, hangar space limited and may be a charge; hotel
    reservations will be tight because it's a big weekend at Tanglewood, I'm
    meeting my wife there. In Pittsfield call Comfort Inn  413 443 4714 or
    Crowne Plaza 413 499 2000. I made reservations slightly further away in
    North Adams at Holiday Inn 413 663 6500 (half the price of staying in
    Pittsfield)..

    North Adams also has a small airport: Harriman (AQD) non-towered, single
    runway 4300 feet. I've landed there before in a glider; runs e/w and
    approach is over hills..



    JULY 12 FLY FROM PITTSFIELD TO ELMIRA

    Stay in Elmira from 7/12 until 7/15

    Elmira NY (ELM):  607 739 3597: two long runways; towered; car rentals;
    $10/night hangars; no landing fee. Econolodge 609 739 2000 low rates
    Glad to hear you walked away from your landing incident with no personal
    injury. Thanks for the additional info on what led up to the hard landing. What
    type of damage was done to the landing gear, wing, fuselage, ect.?

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    JULY 15 FLY FROM ELMIRA TO STATE COLLEGE

    Stay in State College from 7/15 until 7/20; soar the ridge

    State College PA (UNV) 814 865 5511: two long runways (one 50' wide); non
    towered; car rentals; $45/ night hangars; $10/ night tie down; no landing
    fee. This is art fest weekend so hotels may be in short supply. Try Holiday
    Inn Express 814 867 1800.

    Ridge Soaring (79N) operates out of a small strip at Unionville PA.


    JULY 20 FLY HOME
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    Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:01:37 -0400
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    Subject:      Northeast Safari

    Dear All:

    The Safari was going great; by July 4th we had four Ximangos at Laconia
    New Hampshire (Bruce Shimmel, Roland Martin, Holliday Obrecht and I)and
    had flow for a couple of days in weak lift but great scenery and comradare.

    The tour ended on July 4th when I had a hard landing on turf at Franconia
    Airport (1B5) near Mt. Washington. I was not hurt in the least in the
    incident nor was there any damage except to the Ximango.
     
    The runway at Franconia is 2300 foot long and is 150 wide for most of its
    length. At the North end, however, the width is considerably less. I was
    landing to the South under idle power (left hand pattern) and was a bit
    concerned about landing on turf. I wanted to be gentle with the landing
    gear. I planned to touch down in a three point, minimum energy landing. I
    crossed the threshold (where the span between the trees was reduced) with
    a somewhat (deliberately) lower than normal airspeed. As I proceeded, I
    thought the spread between the trees might be a bit narrow for my long
    wingspread so I retracted my spoilers to diminish the sink rate, remain
    above the tree tops, and extend the glide a bit. All the reactions of the
    Ximango were normal. I reached the wider part of the runway at, I would
    judge, about 30 feet AGL. I dove slightly, and flared, but the flare had
    very little effect on the decent rate. The tail contacted the turf runway
    first. The main gear then contacted the runway, and after a short roll on
    the turf, the gear gave way.
     
    What happened?  I think that I was in the "drag bucket" and that I got
    there when I lost further airspeed by extending the glide over the trees.
     
    The time between clearing the narrow portion of the runway and the landing
    was very short; nevertheless, a go-around might have been possible- the
    advantage of a motor glider, after all, but the glider operations
    proceeding at the other end of the runway were an apparent hazard.

    The club operations on the field gave me great assistance in moving the
    glider to the side of the runway. Bruce, Roland and Holliday flew me back
    to my home base in Hartford, CT the next day. The insurance company,
    Avemco, is being very cooperative. I have their go ahead for the repair
    and we will be collecting the bird on Tuesday and Wednesday and bringing
    it back to Hartford.

    I've learned again you can't fool the energy gods.

     

    Best

    Ted
     
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    Date:         Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:56:10 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Steve  Wells <SAWELLS39@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Northeast Safari
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    Hi Ted

    Glad to hear you walked away from your landing incident with no personal
    injury.  Thanks for the additional info on what led up to the hard landing.  What
    type of damage was done to the landing gear, wing, fuselage, ect.?

    Also, thanks to Jim and Horst for their imput regarding low voltage warnings
    and air restarts.  If anyone else has what they think is an excellent air
    restart method, I would appreciate getting the details. 

    Steve Wells
    Albuquerque, NM
    #51
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    Date:         Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:42:18 -0700
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         john adbon <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Northeast Safari
    In-Reply-To:  <d5.2c44abf5.300b22ca@aol.com>
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    RE Air restarts
    I tried yesterday to engage a restart at a slower airspeed by advanceing the prop pitch to assist the turning of the prop. Actually I discovered it makes little difference and really it is a case of going to 105 knots on fine pitch for a efficient restart. the total loss in height after restart was 500 feet. Does that match up with your experiences.
    John (Aust.)

    Steve Wells <SAWELLS39@AOL.COM> wrote:
    Hi Ted

    Glad to hear you walked away from your landing incident with no personal
    injury. Thanks for the additional info on what led up to the hard landing. What
    type of damage was done to the landing gear, wing, fuselage, ect.?

    Also, thanks to Jim and Horst for their imput regarding low voltage warnings
    and air restarts. If anyone else has what they think is an excellent air
    restart method, I would appreciate getting the details.

    Steve Wells
    Albuquerque, NM
    #51


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