Pre-Mature Death Reports - Jan 2009

don't know how the rumor about Aeromot's demise got started up  again.  It
went around last year too. There is an Aeromot- Chinese JV  that has been
several years in the process.  However, that has not changed  the way Ximango USA
does business with Aeromot.

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Owners and Other Interested People,
 
I don't know how the rumor about Aeromot's demise got started up  again.  It
went around last year too. There is an Aeromot- Chinese JV  that has been
several years in the process.  However, that has not changed  the way Ximango USA
does business with Aeromot.  We currently have a new  Ximango (100hp, glass
panel) in final assembly in Porto Alegre and are  routinely ordering parts to be
shipped to North America.
 
I do, however, think the English-language Service Bulletin web  service needs
rejuvenation and will speak to them about that.
 
Chuck Cheeseman
Ximango USA
 
 
In a message dated 1/4/2009 5:35:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
bmanawadu@AOL.COM writes:

Bruce,

Greetings!

I am saddened to hear that Ximango is  going out of business in Aeromot,
Brazil. They through Chuck Cheeseman  provided an excellent service.

I do remember a chatter in the past  emails that Chinese may be starting a
manufacturing plant in Asia. Is there  are any factual basis or it is just idle
chatter.


Bing  Manawadu









-----Original  Message-----
From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To:  XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:31 pm
Subject:  What's your GPS?









Happy New Year,  everyone. Have a happy and safe years!?
?

Well...after a decade,  I've got to replace my Garmin 195. The computer's OK,
but the screen is  dying.?

I'll really miss it. It did the job just fine and mounted  mounted so
beautifully on the panel: a slight mod to the mounting bracket, and  it fit perfectly
over two vertical far left spaces.?
?

I've been  thinking about a 296, but not sure where it'll fit. Also if you
can recharge  from onboard power.?
?

So... tell us all...What's your  GPS??
?

How do you like it??

How does it fit into yr  panel??

Can you recharge your GPS's batteries using the aircraft's  system??
?


(If you have a foto, please upload it on another  server, or send it to me
first and I'll upload it for  you.)?
?

Bruce?






**************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
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My friends, Chuck...

Death or demise is too strong a word. Let's just saying sleeping, or 
on hiatus.

I believe this when I tried to find something, anything, on the web 
to suggest that Aeromot still actively makes Ximangos. There used to 
be a website, but now, nada. Their former site, http://
www.ximango.com.br is gone.

I also see no mention now of the a/c on Aeromot's own site, which 
once listed the Ximango as one of their products. From these two 
absences, one could reasonably infer that production of the line is 
at least on hiatus.

That said, it'd wonderful that parts continue to be available, and 
that the value of the a/c now in service will not be affected. Still, 
their silence seems to point up the value of finding local sourcing 
of parts and services.

I understand how it might not be in the company's best interest to 
announce a pulling back, if indeed there has been one. But lacking 
evidence to the contrary, this appears to be the truth. (My theory is 
that the price tag is too steep to compete with the LSAs.)

As a journalist, as well as a pilot, I have this persistent if 
annoying fondness for the unvarnished truth ;->.

yrs, Bruce


On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Chuck Cheeseman wrote:

Owners and Other Interested People,

I don't know how the rumor about Aeromot's demise got started up  
again.  It
went around last year too. There is an Aeromot- Chinese JV  that has 
been
several years in the process.  However, that has not changed  the way 
Ximango USA
does business with Aeromot.  We currently have a new  Ximango (100hp, 
glass
panel) in final assembly in Porto Alegre and are  routinely ordering 
parts to be
shipped to North America.

I do, however, think the English-language Service Bulletin web  
service needs
rejuvenation and will speak to them about that.

Chuck Cheeseman
Ximango USA


In a message dated 1/4/2009 5:35:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bmanawadu@AOL.COM writes:

Bruce,

Greetings!

I am saddened to hear that Ximango is  going out of business in Aeromot,
Brazil. They through Chuck Cheeseman  provided an excellent service.

I do remember a chatter in the past  emails that Chinese may be 
starting a
manufacturing plant in Asia. Is there  are any factual basis or it is 
just idle
chatter.


Bing  Manawadu









-----Original  Message-----
From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To:  XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:31 pm
Subject:  What's your GPS?









Happy New Year,  everyone. Have a happy and safe years!?
?

Well...after a decade,  I've got to replace my Garmin 195. The 
computer's OK,
but the screen is  dying.?

I'll really miss it. It did the job just fine and mounted  mounted so
beautifully on the panel: a slight mod to the mounting bracket, and  
it fit perfectly
over two vertical far left spaces.?
?

I've been  thinking about a 296, but not sure where it'll fit. Also 
if you
can recharge  from onboard power.?
?

So... tell us all...What's your  GPS??
?

How do you like it??

How does it fit into yr  panel??

Can you recharge your GPS's batteries using the aircraft's  system??
?


(If you have a foto, please upload it on another  server, or send it 
to me
first and I'll upload it for  you.)?
?

Bruce?






**************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:53:05 -0800
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From:         Steve Sliwa <steve.sliwa@MAC.COM>
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It's interesting how we now make observations about people's =20
commitment based upon their investment in the web.  <g>

Hopefully, we can get them to re-prioritize and re-energize their web =20=

activities.  It looks to me like "Aeromot Aeronaves e Motores S/=20
A" (maintenance and distributor) has taken over the base website and =20
"Aeromot Ind=FAstria Mec=E2nico-Metal=FArgica Ltda." has given up its =
web =20
presence, even though it appears to be the biggest part (contract =20
manufacturing) of Aeromot.

It's probably a Catch-22 proposition.  If you are only selling a few =20
Ximango's a year it is tough to invest in marketing on the web.  On =20
the other hand, if you don't invest in marketing you can' grow your =20
sales.


On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

> My friends, Chuck...
>
> Death or demise is too strong a word. Let's just saying sleeping, or =20=

> on hiatus.
>
> I believe this when I tried to find something, anything, on the web =20=

> to suggest that Aeromot still actively makes Ximangos. There used to =20=

> be a website, but now, nada. Their former site, =
http://www.ximango.com.br=20
>  is gone.
>
> I also see no mention now of the a/c on Aeromot's own site, which =20
> once listed the Ximango as one of their products. =46rom these two =20
> absences, one could reasonably infer that production of the line is =20=

> at least on hiatus.
>
> That said, it'd wonderful that parts continue to be available, and =20
> that the value of the a/c now in service will not be affected. =20
> Still, their silence seems to point up the value of finding local =20
> sourcing of parts and services.
>
> I understand how it might not be in the company's best interest to =20
> announce a pulling back, if indeed there has been one. But lacking =20
> evidence to the contrary, this appears to be the truth. (My theory =20
> is that the price tag is too steep to compete with the LSAs.)
>
> As a journalist, as well as a pilot, I have this persistent if =20
> annoying fondness for the unvarnished truth ;->.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Chuck Cheeseman wrote:
>
> Owners and Other Interested People,
>
> I don't know how the rumor about Aeromot's demise got started up  =20
> again.  It
> went around last year too. There is an Aeromot- Chinese JV  that has =20=

> been
> several years in the process.  However, that has not changed  the =20
> way Ximango USA
> does business with Aeromot.  We currently have a new  Ximango =20
> (100hp, glass
> panel) in final assembly in Porto Alegre and are  routinely ordering =20=

> parts to be
> shipped to North America.
>
> I do, however, think the English-language Service Bulletin web  =20
> service needs
> rejuvenation and will speak to them about that.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman
> Ximango USA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2009 5:35:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bmanawadu@AOL.COM writes:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Greetings!
>
> I am saddened to hear that Ximango is  going out of business in =20
> Aeromot,
> Brazil. They through Chuck Cheeseman  provided an excellent service.
>
> I do remember a chatter in the past  emails that Chinese may be =20
> starting a
> manufacturing plant in Asia. Is there  are any factual basis or it =20
> is just idle
> chatter.
>
>
> Bing  Manawadu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
> To:  XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:31 pm
> Subject:  What's your GPS?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Happy New Year,  everyone. Have a happy and safe years!?
> ?
>
> Well...after a decade,  I've got to replace my Garmin 195. The =20
> computer's OK,
> but the screen is  dying.?
>
> I'll really miss it. It did the job just fine and mounted  mounted so
> beautifully on the panel: a slight mod to the mounting bracket, and  =20=

> it fit perfectly
> over two vertical far left spaces.?
> ?
>
> I've been  thinking about a 296, but not sure where it'll fit. Also =20=

> if you
> can recharge  from onboard power.?
> ?
>
> So... tell us all...What's your  GPS??
> ?
>
> How do you like it??
>
> How does it fit into yr  panel??
>
> Can you recharge your GPS's batteries using the aircraft's  system??
> ?
>
>
> (If you have a foto, please upload it on another  server, or send it =20=

> to me
> first and I'll upload it for  you.)?
> ?
>
> Bruce?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is =20
> making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=3Demlcntaolcom00000026)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:25:06 -0500
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From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
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y'know I'd agree with you that web-marketing isn't entirely =20
indicative, if the company had not redesigned all their webstuff, and =20=

left out ximango. And that they let the ximango domain name die =20
entirely.

On Jan 5, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

It's interesting how we now make observations about people's =20
commitment based upon their investment in the web.  <g>

Hopefully, we can get them to re-prioritize and re-energize their web =20=

activities.  It looks to me like "Aeromot Aeronaves e Motores S/=20
A" (maintenance and distributor) has taken over the base website and =20
"Aeromot Ind=FAstria Mec=E2nico-Metal=FArgica Ltda." has given up its =
web =20
presence, even though it appears to be the biggest part (contract =20
manufacturing) of Aeromot.

It's probably a Catch-22 proposition.  If you are only selling a few =20
Ximango's a year it is tough to invest in marketing on the web.  On =20
the other hand, if you don't invest in marketing you can' grow your =20
sales.


On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

> My friends, Chuck...
>
> Death or demise is too strong a word. Let's just saying sleeping, =20
> or on hiatus.
>
> I believe this when I tried to find something, anything, on the web =20=

> to suggest that Aeromot still actively makes Ximangos. There used =20
> to be a website, but now, nada. Their former site, http://=20
> www.ximango.com.br is gone.
>
> I also see no mention now of the a/c on Aeromot's own site, which =20
> once listed the Ximango as one of their products. =46rom these two =20
> absences, one could reasonably infer that production of the line is =20=

> at least on hiatus.
>
> That said, it'd wonderful that parts continue to be available, and =20
> that the value of the a/c now in service will not be affected. =20
> Still, their silence seems to point up the value of finding local =20
> sourcing of parts and services.
>
> I understand how it might not be in the company's best interest to =20
> announce a pulling back, if indeed there has been one. But lacking =20
> evidence to the contrary, this appears to be the truth. (My theory =20
> is that the price tag is too steep to compete with the LSAs.)
>
> As a journalist, as well as a pilot, I have this persistent if =20
> annoying fondness for the unvarnished truth ;->.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Chuck Cheeseman wrote:
>
> Owners and Other Interested People,
>
> I don't know how the rumor about Aeromot's demise got started up  =20
> again.  It
> went around last year too. There is an Aeromot- Chinese JV  that =20
> has been
> several years in the process.  However, that has not changed  the =20
> way Ximango USA
> does business with Aeromot.  We currently have a new  Ximango =20
> (100hp, glass
> panel) in final assembly in Porto Alegre and are  routinely =20
> ordering parts to be
> shipped to North America.
>
> I do, however, think the English-language Service Bulletin web  =20
> service needs
> rejuvenation and will speak to them about that.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman
> Ximango USA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/4/2009 5:35:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bmanawadu@AOL.COM writes:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Greetings!
>
> I am saddened to hear that Ximango is  going out of business in =20
> Aeromot,
> Brazil. They through Chuck Cheeseman  provided an excellent service.
>
> I do remember a chatter in the past  emails that Chinese may be =20
> starting a
> manufacturing plant in Asia. Is there  are any factual basis or it =20
> is just idle
> chatter.
>
>
> Bing  Manawadu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
> To:  XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:31 pm
> Subject:  What's your GPS?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Happy New Year,  everyone. Have a happy and safe years!?
> ?
>
> Well...after a decade,  I've got to replace my Garmin 195. The =20
> computer's OK,
> but the screen is  dying.?
>
> I'll really miss it. It did the job just fine and mounted  mounted so
> beautifully on the panel: a slight mod to the mounting bracket, =20
> and  it fit perfectly
> over two vertical far left spaces.?
> ?
>
> I've been  thinking about a 296, but not sure where it'll fit. Also =20=

> if you
> can recharge  from onboard power.?
> ?
>
> So... tell us all...What's your  GPS??
> ?
>
> How do you like it??
>
> How does it fit into yr  panel??
>
> Can you recharge your GPS's batteries using the aircraft's  system??
> ?
>
>
> (If you have a foto, please upload it on another  server, or send =20
> it to me
> first and I'll upload it for  you.)?
> ?
>
> Bruce?
>
>
>
>
>
>