Transition to Google Yes or No - Feb 2009

Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current XOG 
listServ or go to Google?
ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.

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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:44:47 -0500
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Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
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Dear Xoggers,

Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current XOG 
listServ or go to Google?

ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.

IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.

COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.

ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.

I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
preference by a show of emails.

yrs, Bruce
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:39:16 -0800
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Steve Sliwa <steve.sliwa@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
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Hi Bruce

I have been thinking something similar.  I am a soon to be a Ximango 
owner.  My bird is with XimangoUSA getting ready for me to pick up for 
its trip to the Pacific NW where I live.  So I am new to this group 
and have been laying low until I become an official owner.

I also belong to COPA (Cirrus Owners and Pilots Organization) at http://www.cirruspilots.org/
  and their website is awesome and it creates lots of interchange and 
a sense of community.  Of course, they have lots of members and 
financially support its customization.  But on a whim I have been 
looking at some baseline characterisitics to potentially suggest to 
this group.  I was thinking we might consider getting a domain so that 
we could get a few more features.  If I made a list it might include:

Forums (with thread and e-mail management)
Technical Resources [manuals and technical documents]
Resource Links
Photo Albums
    > aircraft & owners
    > trips
Upcoming Events Calendar

My cursory review of Groups in Google shows the following:

Forums - Standard forum stuff but appears better than XOG, but not the 
best out there
Pages - Custom pages can be associated with the group
Files -- resources files

Looking through the groups, it appears that some linked in Photo 
Albums through a group account on Flikr.  Some others also linked to a 
Calendar program for events and others just uploaded event schedules 
as .pdfs

So my view is that we could get a major upgrade by going to Google 
Groups for the forum and linking in a Flikr account for photo albums.  
If a few of us created some customer pages of resources and/or 
references we would be able to cover the list and have a major upgrade.

I vote Yes.  Bruce let me know if I can help.

Steve Sliwa
soon to be owner of N175XS

Actually, I have been investigating other
On Feb 27, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current 
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:50:03 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <43343E7C-8EB8-4FCD-9869-605D621A80CB@mac.com>
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Dear Steve,
Thanks for your helpful insights. I think Google groups allows the 
creation of webpages and the like -- but that's more than I'm 
capable.  Most of all, it would be great to have the technical 
information available once again, and hopefully we could get some 
cooperation on that.
yrs, Bruce
On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

Hi Bruce

I have been thinking something similar.  I am a soon to be a Ximango 
owner.  My bird is with XimangoUSA getting ready for me to pick up 
for its trip to the Pacific NW where I live.  So I am new to this 
group and have been laying low until I become an official owner.

I also belong to COPA (Cirrus Owners and Pilots Organization) at 
http://www.cirruspilots.org/ and their website is awesome and it 
creates lots of interchange and a sense of community.  Of course, 
they have lots of members and financially support its customization.  
But on a whim I have been looking at some baseline characterisitics 
to potentially suggest to this group.  I was thinking we might 
consider getting a domain so that we could get a few more features.  
If I made a list it might include:

Forums (with thread and e-mail management)
Technical Resources [manuals and technical documents]
Resource Links
Photo Albums
    > aircraft & owners
    > trips
Upcoming Events Calendar

My cursory review of Groups in Google shows the following:

Forums - Standard forum stuff but appears better than XOG, but not 
the best out there
Pages - Custom pages can be associated with the group
Files -- resources files

Looking through the groups, it appears that some linked in Photo 
Albums through a group account on Flikr.  Some others also linked to 
a Calendar program for events and others just uploaded event 
schedules as .pdfs

So my view is that we could get a major upgrade by going to Google 
Groups for the forum and linking in a Flikr account for photo 
albums.  If a few of us created some customer pages of resources and/
or references we would be able to cover the list and have a major 
upgrade.

I vote Yes.  Bruce let me know if I can help.

Steve Sliwa
soon to be owner of N175XS

Actually, I have been investigating other
On Feb 27, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current 
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:05:05 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Michael Nagle <mnagle@VINEYARD.NET>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <B88B7220-6331-4253-9D87-296545BD12CB@schimmel.com>
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I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other 
user friendly site
Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted 
into google
Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current 
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22:34 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <70E4D05A-75DF-4FB8-B92E-D57305CCEF91@vineyard.net>
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doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it. 
but one solution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let 
people take what they need, and then shut it down. thanks for the 
feedback. yrs, B
On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:

I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other 
user friendly site
Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted 
into google
Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current 
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:24:18 -0600
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Horst Stratmann <Horst.Stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
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I agree with Michael.

Best regards

=20

Horst Stratmann

UPC Interpipe, Inc.

Tel:  512 266 0132

Fax: 512 266 0133


-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Michael Nagle
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:05 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...

I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other =20
user friendly site
Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted =20
into google
Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current =20
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 =20
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, =20
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your =20
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:01:22 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         bmanawadu@AOL.COM
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <C85C3D5CC9456F4694A4DF554672BD99483CC2@upcserver.UPCInterpipe.local>
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 Bruce,

I agree.

Go for it.

Kind regards,

Bing Manawadu


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Stratmann <Horst.Stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 9:24 am
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...










I agree with Michael.

Best regards

 

Horst Stratmann

UPC Interpipe, Inc.

Tel:  512 266 0132

Fax: 512 266 0133


-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Michael Nagle
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:05 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...

I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other 
user friendly site
Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted 
into google
Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:

> Dear Xoggers,
>
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current 
> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 
> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, 
> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your 
> preference by a show of emails.
>
> yrs, Bruce
>



 
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:37:35 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Chuck Cheeseman <ximangousa@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <AD6572E0-51B7-4547-97D0-AD2C1C8664B3@schimmel.com>
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XOG-ers,



We are working the technical info (bulletins, etc) with Aeromot. =C2=A0This=20=
info will be on =C2=A0Aeromot's website and/or XimangoUSA.com. =C2=A0You can=
 plan on linking to it at the Google XOG setup. =C2=A0Also, as a few of you=20=
know, =C2=A0there already exists a Flickr account for Ximango images. =C2=
=A0I'm working on getting invitations sent to each of your e-mail accounts s=
o that it can be used by everyone. =C2=A0I would recommend continuing with t=
his start, rather than beginning over.




Chuck Cheeseman

Ximango USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:50 am
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...







Dear Steve,=C2=A0

Thanks for your helpful insights. I think Google groups allows the creation=20=
of webpages and the like -- but that's more than I'm capable.  Most of all,=20=
it would be great to have the technical information available once again, an=
d hopefully we could get some cooperation on that.=C2=A0

yrs, Bruce=C2=A0

On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Steve Sliwa wrote:=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Hi Bruce=C2=A0
=C2=A0

I have been thinking something similar.  I am a soon to be a Ximango owner.=20=
 My bird is with XimangoUSA getting ready for me to pick up for its trip to=20=
the Pacific NW where I live.  So I am new to this group and have been laying=
 low until I become an official owner.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

I also belong to COPA (Cirrus Owners and Pilots Organization) at http://www.=
cirruspilots.org/ an
d their website is awesome and it creates lots of interchange and a sense of=
 community.  Of course, they have lots of members and financially support it=
s customization.  But on a whim I have been looking at some baseline charact=
erisitics to potentially suggest to this group.  I was thinking we might con=
sider getting a domain so that we could get a few more features.  If I made=20=
a list it might include:=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Forums (with thread and e-mail management)=C2=A0

Technical Resources [manuals and technical documents]=C2=A0

Resource Links=C2=A0

Photo Albums=C2=A0

=C2=A0  > aircraft & owners=C2=A0

=C2=A0  > trips=C2=A0

Upcoming Events Calendar=C2=A0
=C2=A0

My cursory review of Groups in Google shows the following:=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Forums - Standard forum stuff but appears better than XOG, but not the best=20=
out there=C2=A0

Pages - Custom pages can be associated with the group=C2=A0

Files -- resources files=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Looking through the groups, it appears that some linked in Photo Albums thro=
ugh a group account on Flikr.  Some others also linked to a Calendar program=
 for events and others just uploaded event schedules as .pdfs=C2=A0
=C2=A0

So my view is that we could get a major upgrade by going to Google Groups fo=
r the forum and linking in a Flikr account for photo albums.  If a few of us=
 created some customer pages of resources and/or references we would be able=
 to cover the list and have a major upgrade.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

I vote Yes.  Bruce let me know if I can help.=C2=A0
=C2=A00A
Steve Sliwa=C2=A0

soon to be owner of N175XS=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Actually, I have been investigating other=C2=A0

On Feb 27, 2009, at 7:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:=C2=A0
=C2=A0

> Dear Xoggers,=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current > XOG li=
stServ or go to Google?=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 > years.=20=
I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, > includ=
ing images.  The current XOG listServ does not.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your > prefer=
ence by a show of emails.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> yrs, Bruce=C2=A0



=20
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:39:36 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Chuck Cheeseman <ximangousa@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <05B5F1DC-7EA9-44AA-A83F-69C4E6DE0BB2@schimmel.com>
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Why not leave the current archive in place indefinitely and link to it at th=
e Google page?



Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...







doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it. but one s=
olution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let people take what t=
hey need, and then shut it down. thanks for the feedback. yrs, B=C2=A0

On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:=C2=A0
=C2=A0

I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other user f=
riendly site=C2=A0

Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted into goog=
le=C2=A0

Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Sent from my iPhone=C2=A0
=C2=A0

On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:=C2=
=A0
=C2=A0

> Dear Xoggers,=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current > XOG li=
stServ or go to Google?=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 > years.=20=
I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, > includ=
ing images.  The current XOG listServ does not.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> I haven't used Google much, so=3D2
0I'm not sure. Please indicate your > preference by a show of emails.=C2=A0

>=C2=A0

> yrs, Bruce=C2=A0

>=C2=A0



=20
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:45:52 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
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interesting idea to leave it in place for at least a while.

Sent from my IPhone.

On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chuck Cheeseman <ximangousa@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Why not leave the current archive in place indefinitely and link to 
> it at the Google page?
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22 pm
> Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it. 
> but one solution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let 
> people take what they need, and then shut it down. thanks for the 
> feedback. yrs, B
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:
>
>
> I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some 
> other user friendly site
>
> Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted 
> into google
>
> Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> Dear Xoggers,
>
>>
>
>> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current > 
>> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
>>
>
>> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 > 
>> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
>>
>
>> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, > 
>> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
>>
>
>> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
>>
>
>> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
>>
>
>> I haven't used Google much, so=2
> 0I'm not sure. Please indicate your > preference by a show of emails.
>
>>
>
>> yrs, Bruce
>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:11:35 -0800
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Roland Martin <roland_martin@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <978312E8-5022-49E0-9EB6-63FF63A22D66@schimmel.com>
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Bruce,
=A0
great idea to move to google. Would be nice to keep the existing archive op=
en for a few months.=20
=A0
Thanks a lot for your initiative to start and sustain our users group.

Roland Martin
S/N 97

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:

From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:45 PM

interesting idea to leave it in place for at least a while.

Sent from my IPhone.

On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chuck Cheeseman <ximangousa@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Why not leave the current archive in place indefinitely and link to =20
> it at the Google page?
>
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22 pm
> Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it. =20
> but one solution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let =20
> people take what they need, and then shut it down. thanks for the =20
> feedback. yrs, B
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:
>
>
> I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some =20
> other user friendly site
>
> Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted =20
> into google
>
> Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> =20
> wrote:
>
>
>> Dear Xoggers,
>
>>
>
>> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current >
=20
>> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>
>>
>
>> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 >=20

>> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>
>>
>
>> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, >
=20
>> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>
>>
>
>> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>
>>
>
>> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>
>>
>
>> I haven't used Google much, so=3D2
> 0I'm not sure. Please indicate your > preference by a show of
emails.
>
>>
>
>> yrs, Bruce
>
>>
>
>
>
>
=0A=0A=0A     
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Date:         Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:48:06 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <615658.12946.qm@web52312.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11)

everyone seems to agree that it's time to move on. and I got an offer 
for someone to take over. yay! b.

Sent from my IPhone.

On Feb 27, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Roland Martin <roland_martin@YAHOO.COM> 
wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> great idea to move to google. Would be nice to keep the existing 
> archive open for a few months.
>
> Thanks a lot for your initiative to start and sustain our users group.
>
> Roland Martin
> S/N 97
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:
>
> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
> Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:45 PM
>
> interesting idea to leave it in place for at least a while.
>
> Sent from my IPhone.
>
> On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chuck Cheeseman <ximangousa@AOL.COM> 
> wrote:
>
>> Why not leave the current archive in place indefinitely and link to
>> it at the Google page?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
>> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22 pm
>> Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it.
>> but one solution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let
>> people take what they need, and then shut it down. thanks for the
>> feedback. yrs, B
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:
>>
>>
>> I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some
>> other user friendly site
>>
>> Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted
>> into google
>>
>> Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Dear Xoggers,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current >
>
>>> XOG listServ or go to Google?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 >
>
>>> years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, >
>
>>> including images.  The current XOG listServ does not.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I haven't used Google much, so=2
>> 0I'm not sure. Please indicate your > preference by a show of
> emails.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> yrs, Bruce
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:02:18 EST
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         John Lawton <Thrmlseekr@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey Bruce,
 
I would welcome the move to Google, provided we can keep the forum SPAM  from
outside sources to a minimum.
 
Regards,
 
John  Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
Ximango #135
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID
%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:47:32 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Manny Sousa <mannysfl@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <05B5F1DC-7EA9-44AA-A83F-69C4E6DE0BB2@schimmel.com>
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go to Google?? Manny



-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...


doubt of the cutting and pasting. there are years and years of it. but one solution would be to leave it up for another 6 months, let people take what they need, and then shut it down. thanks for the feedback. yrs, B?
On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Michael Nagle wrote:?
?
I, personally, find the XOG hard to use so I would welcome some other user friendly site?
Perhaps the important archived informatio. Could be cut and pasted into google?
Mike Nagle 757DM 200-047?
?
Sent from my iPhone?
?
On Feb 27, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:?
?
> Dear Xoggers,?
>?
> Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current > XOG listServ or go to Google??
>?
> ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7 > years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.?
>?
> IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file, > including images. The current XOG listServ does not.?
>?
> COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.?
>?
> ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.?
>?
> I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your > preference by a show of emails.?
>?
> yrs, Bruce?
>?
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:03:24 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <bc5.4377d216.36da8fda@aol.com>
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I don't know about the spam. but the group would be private. by 
ivtation only. b.

Sent from my IPhone.

On Feb 28, 2009, at 8:02 AM, John Lawton <Thrmlseekr@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Hey Bruce,
>
> I would welcome the move to Google, provided we can keep the forum 
> SPAM  from
> outside sources to a minimum.
>
> Regards,
>
> John  Lawton
> Whitwell, TN (TN89)
> Ximango #135
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 
> 2 easy
> steps!
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID
> %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)
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Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:20:55 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Michael Nagle <mnagle@VINEYARD.NET>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <F2DC452B-9AEE-41BD-8879-7394AFD6EE78@schimmel.com>
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I am in another similar "private" or limited access group on google 
that gets a lot of spam but it learns what the group considers to be 
spam and sends it to a spam folder so that spam has not been a problem 
at all. Occasionally I trash everything In the spam folder
Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> wrote:
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:34:00 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
In-Reply-To:  <0703DFF8-05F9-4D8C-AD0C-558A475E1D99@vineyard.net>
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good to know. good to avoid. thx b.

Sent from my IPhone.

On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Michael Nagle <mnagle@VINEYARD.NET> wrote:

> I am in another similar "private" or limited access group on google 
> that gets a lot of spam but it learns what the group considers to be 
> spam and sends it to a spam folder so that spam has not been a 
> problem at all. Occasionally I trash everything In the spam folder
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM> 
> wrote:
=========================================================================
Date:         Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:56:00 -0800
Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
From:         Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
Subject:      Re: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi Bruce,

Count me "in" on the change to Google. For some reason, I have found the Xog list a bit hard to use, as you have had to send out my inquiries for to list personally--probably some software problem with my computer. Hopefully the Google list will be easier.

Thanks for being our leader in this change!

Best regards,
Holliday Obrecht
S.N. 130


--- bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM wrote:

From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: transition to GOOGLE? yes or no...
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:44:47 -0500

Dear Xoggers,

Your opinion, please. Would you rather continue using the current XOG
listServ or go to Google?

ARCHIVE: This listServ has an extensive archive that goes back 7
years. I don't think we'd be able to move it to Google.

IMAGES AND UPLOADS: Google allows uploading of all sorts of file,
including images. The current XOG listServ does not.

COST: XOG costs $144 a year. Google is free.

ANNOYANCE: You'll have to register.

I haven't used Google much, so I'm not sure. Please indicate your
preference by a show of emails.

yrs, Bruce