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    Requested Actions:

    • check out the website
    • fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    • give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us ...
    • give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, problems, errors, suggestions, content

    =============================

    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:57:04 -0800
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website - Draft Version 0.9 - Feedback Needed
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    Dear Steve

    I like it. Good work.

    Best
    Ted Gordon

    --------------------------------------------------
    From: "Steve Sliwa" <steve.sliwa@MAC.COM>
    Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:54 PM
    To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Subject: XOG Community Website - Draft Version 0.9 - Feedback Needed

    > Dear Xoggers:
    >
    > As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that  eavesdropping
    > on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I could  get my Ximango
    > lined up.
    >
    > Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for  his
    > volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of  switching to a
    > Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that thread I  suggested that
    > more of community website with an upgraded Forum engine  might be the
    > approach to go for with the next generation.  In a side  conversation
    > Bruce encouraged me to bring up a prototype for the XOG  membership to
    > consider.  As the newest guy on the block, I think it's  appropriate for
    > me to pay my dues by trying to get the new website  community started ...
    >
    > Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/
    >
    > Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest  that
    > some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.
    >
    > It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit inputs,
    > insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty of dividing
    > the Forums into several categories to help with search of archival  data.
    > Note that only members can create topics and add comments.  In  your
    > membership area you set up the subscriptions for each forum or  topic
    > individually to send you e-mail messages either immediately,  daily, or
    > weekly for changes in the respective forums.
    >
    > Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link to  the
    > ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we hope to  find a
    > way to get the data moved into the new community for searching,  if we
    > decide to go with the community idea.
    >
    > The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for  Flickr
    > (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe Gallery.   Flickr
    > allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But one downside  is that
    > slideshows of the collections can not be shared until the  content has
    > been approved by Flickr management, generally 3 to 5 days  for small
    > collections.  MobileMe allows for easy upload and download  of pictures
    > and has nice viewing functions (I like carousel mode  myself).  It does
    > not allow extensive comments though.  I am not sure  if we should keep
    > both approaches or which one will suit us best.   (Feedback is needed).
    > Note that I initiated these collections with  resources found on the web.
    > If anyone has any material that you would  like to me to delete or change,
    > please let me know.  In the meantime,  I encourage people to add content
    > to the various albums.
    >
    > There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.
    >
    > There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... send  me
    > more].
    >
    > In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note that
    > each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile to  others)
    > and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.
    >
    > A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the
    > participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to  share.
    > The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among  members.
    > However, it is also pretty easy to add static content,  links, graphics,
    > pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It is  relatively
    > straightforward with these tools, now that initial learning  curve is
    > over.
    >
    > After we get going there might be other volunteers to help administer  the
    > website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it will be low  cycles for
    > our activity level (perhaps increasing) and our size and I  will keep
    > paying dues, assuming the XOG want this type of community  site.
    >
    > Requested Actions:
    >
    > • check out the website
    > • fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    > • give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us ...
    > • give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos,
    > problems, errors, suggestions, content, content
    >
    > Steve Sliwa
    > Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175=
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:52:44 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website - Draft Version 0.9 - Feedback Needed
    In-Reply-To:  <7B9F5946-F496-472A-B681-AFD9E3411BA8@mac.com>
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1)
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    I just signed up! Went really well. Easy. Thanks, Steve...
    On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

    Dear Xoggers:

    As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that =20
    eavesdropping on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I =20
    could get my Ximango lined up.

    Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for =20
    his volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of =20
    switching to a Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that thread =20
    I suggested that more of community website with an upgraded Forum =20
    engine might be the approach to go for with the next generation.  In =20
    a side conversation Bruce encouraged me to bring up a prototype for =20
    the XOG membership to consider.  As the newest guy on the block, I =20
    think it's appropriate for me to pay my dues by trying to get the new =20=

    website community started ...

    Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/

    Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest =20
    that some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.

    It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit inputs, =20
    insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty of =20
    dividing the Forums into several categories to help with search of =20
    archival data.  Note that only members can create topics and add =20
    comments.  In your membership area you set up the subscriptions for =20
    each forum or topic individually to send you e-mail messages either =20
    immediately, daily, or weekly for changes in the respective forums.

    Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link to =20
    the ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we hope =20
    to find a way to get the data moved into the new community for =20
    searching, if we decide to go with the community idea.

    The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for =20
    Flickr (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe Gallery.  =20=

    Flickr allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But one downside =20=

    is that slideshows of the collections can not be shared until the =20
    content has been approved by Flickr management, generally 3 to 5 days =20=

    for small collections.  MobileMe allows for easy upload and download =20
    of pictures and has nice viewing functions (I like carousel mode =20
    myself).  It does not allow extensive comments though.  I am not sure =20=

    if we should keep both approaches or which one will suit us best.  =20
    (Feedback is needed).  Note that I initiated these collections with =20
    resources found on the web.  If anyone has any material that you =20
    would like to me to delete or change, please let me know.  In the =20
    meantime, I encourage people to add content to the various albums.

    There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.

    There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... send =20=

    me more].

    In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note that =20=

    each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile to =20
    others) and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.

    A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the =20
    participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to =20
    share.  The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among =20
    members.  However, it is also pretty easy to add static content, =20
    links, graphics, pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It =20
    is relatively straightforward with these tools, now that initial =20
    learning curve is over.

    After we get going there might be other volunteers to help administer =20=

    the website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it will be low =20
    cycles for our activity level (perhaps increasing) and our size and I =20=

    will keep paying dues, assuming the XOG want this type of community =20
    site.

    Requested Actions:

    =95 check out the website
    =95 fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    =95 give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us ...
    =95 give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, =20
    problems, errors, suggestions, content, content

    Steve Sliwa
    Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:58:08 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website - Draft Version 0.9 - Feedback Needed
    In-Reply-To:  <7B9F5946-F496-472A-B681-AFD9E3411BA8@mac.com>
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1)
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed
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    steve --

    i have couple suggestions, though it may be i've missed something.

    first, let me say that this is an extraordinary well-conceived site. =20
    i am honored that XOG inspired you to this. this is really gonna =20
    create community in a way that's amazing.

    a couple thoughts:
    -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a daily =20
    summary of posts?

    what an amazing accomplishment! you're really gonna making soaring =20
    better for everyone!

    yrs, B


    On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

    Dear Xoggers:

    As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that =20
    eavesdropping on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I =20
    could get my Ximango lined up.

    Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for =20
    his volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of =20
    switching to a Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that thread =20
    I suggested that more of community website with an upgraded Forum =20
    engine might be the approach to go for with the next generation.  In =20
    a side conversation Bruce encouraged me to bring up a prototype for =20
    the XOG membership to consider.  As the newest guy on the block, I =20
    think it's appropriate for me to pay my dues by trying to get the new =20=

    website community started ...

    Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/

    Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest =20
    that some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.

    It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit inputs, =20
    insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty of =20
    dividing the Forums into several categories to help with search of =20
    archival data.  Note that only members can create topics and add =20
    comments.  In your membership area you set up the subscriptions for =20
    each forum or topic individually to send you e-mail messages either =20
    immediately, daily, or weekly for changes in the respective forums.

    Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link to =20
    the ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we hope =20
    to find a way to get the data moved into the new community for =20
    searching, if we decide to go with the community idea.

    The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for =20
    Flickr (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe Gallery.  =20=

    Flickr allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But one downside =20=

    is that slideshows of the collections can not be shared until the =20
    content has been approved by Flickr management, generally 3 to 5 days =20=

    for small collections.  MobileMe allows for easy upload and download =20
    of pictures and has nice viewing functions (I like carousel mode =20
    myself).  It does not allow extensive comments though.  I am not sure =20=

    if we should keep both approaches or which one will suit us best.  =20
    (Feedback is needed).  Note that I initiated these collections with =20
    resources found on the web.  If anyone has any material that you =20
    would like to me to delete or change, please let me know.  In the =20
    meantime, I encourage people to add content to the various albums.

    There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.

    There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... send =20=

    me more].

    In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note that =20=

    each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile to =20
    others) and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.

    A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the =20
    participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to =20
    share.  The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among =20
    members.  However, it is also pretty easy to add static content, =20
    links, graphics, pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It =20
    is relatively straightforward with these tools, now that initial =20
    learning curve is over.

    After we get going there might be other volunteers to help administer =20=

    the website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it will be low =20
    cycles for our activity level (perhaps increasing) and our size and I =20=

    will keep paying dues, assuming the XOG want this type of community =20
    site.

    Requested Actions:

    =95 check out the website
    =95 fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    =95 give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us ...
    =95 give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, =20
    problems, errors, suggestions, content, content

    Steve Sliwa
    Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:14:00 -0800
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Steve Sliwa <steve.sliwa@MAC.COM>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website Feedback
    In-Reply-To:  <D1C22C16-C51C-4246-8ECD-6146A5689D6A@schimmel.com>
    MIME-version: 1.0
    Content-type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes
    Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

    Bruce

    Thanks Bruce.  Actually, I enjoyed working on the project this =20
    weekend.  My wife commented I must have been up to something fun.  In =20=

    any case, it seems like we all share passion on the Ximango and =20
    hopefully a virtual community will help increase our enjoyment.  =20
    Everyone please keep sending suggestions and I will tweak if possible.

    You asked the following:

    Question:  -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    Answer:  Yes.  I put it on top of the Forums Summary Page.  Here is a =20=

    link:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/Default.aspx?pageId=3D297075

    Do you think I should create a separate page and menu selection (easy =20=

    to do) or do you think this is enough?

    Question:  -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a =20
    daily summary of posts?
    Answer:  Yes, I just sent an e-mail describing.  Will add to the Site =20=

    Updates (BLOG) section, but let me repeat here as well ...

    Method for Subscribing to Forums:

    (1) Become a member (free)

    (2) Go to the Forums Summary Page to see a summary of activity

    (3) Go to the individual Forum pages from the menu on the left or the =20=

    links on the Summary Page.

    (4) Near the top right of the page just click on the 'subscribe' link =20=

    for each forum.

    (5) After subscribing to each Forum go to the Member Application page =20=

    (selecting it from menu on the left)

    (6) Click on link to 'edit member profile'

    (7) Click the link for 'subscriptions'

    (8) Click on the link for each Forum for which you want to change the =20=

    frequency (immediate, daily, weekly)

    Now when news items or questions come up in a Forum you will be =20
    notified via e-mail.

    Steve Sliwa
    Volunteer Webmaster



    On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

    > steve --
    >
    > i have couple suggestions, though it may be i've missed something.
    >
    > first, let me say that this is an extraordinary well-conceived site. =20=

    > i am honored that XOG inspired you to this. this is really gonna =20
    > create community in a way that's amazing.
    >
    > a couple thoughts:
    > -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    > -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a daily =20
    > summary of posts?
    >
    > what an amazing accomplishment! you're really gonna making soaring =20
    > better for everyone!
    >
    > yrs, B
    >
    >
    > On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:
    >
    > Dear Xoggers:
    >
    > As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that =20
    > eavesdropping on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I =20
    > could get my Ximango lined up.
    >
    > Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for =20=

    > his volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of =20
    > switching to a Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that thread =20=

    > I suggested that more of community website with an upgraded Forum =20
    > engine might be the approach to go for with the next generation.  In =20=

    > a side conversation Bruce encouraged me to bring up a prototype for =20=

    > the XOG membership to consider.  As the newest guy on the block, I =20
    > think it's appropriate for me to pay my dues by trying to get the =20
    > new website community started ...
    >
    > Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/
    >
    > Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest =20=

    > that some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.
    >
    > It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit inputs, =20=

    > insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty of =20
    > dividing the Forums into several categories to help with search of =20
    > archival data.  Note that only members can create topics and add =20
    > comments.  In your membership area you set up the subscriptions for =20=

    > each forum or topic individually to send you e-mail messages either =20=

    > immediately, daily, or weekly for changes in the respective forums.
    >
    > Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link to =20=

    > the ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we hope =20=

    > to find a way to get the data moved into the new community for =20
    > searching, if we decide to go with the community idea.
    >
    > The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for =20
    > Flickr (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe =20
    > Gallery.  Flickr allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But =20
    > one downside is that slideshows of the collections can not be shared =20=

    > until the content has been approved by Flickr management, generally =20=

    > 3 to 5 days for small collections.  MobileMe allows for easy upload =20=

    > and download of pictures and has nice viewing functions (I like =20
    > carousel mode myself).  It does not allow extensive comments =20
    > though.  I am not sure if we should keep both approaches or which =20
    > one will suit us best.  (Feedback is needed).  Note that I initiated =20=

    > these collections with resources found on the web.  If anyone has =20
    > any material that you would like to me to delete or change, please =20
    > let me know.  In the meantime, I encourage people to add content to =20=

    > the various albums.
    >
    > There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.
    >
    > There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... =20
    > send me more].
    >
    > In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note =20
    > that each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile =20=

    > to others) and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.
    >
    > A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the =20=

    > participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to =20
    > share.  The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among =20
    > members.  However, it is also pretty easy to add static content, =20
    > links, graphics, pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It =20=

    > is relatively straightforward with these tools, now that initial =20
    > learning curve is over.
    >
    > After we get going there might be other volunteers to help =20
    > administer the website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it =20
    > will be low cycles for our activity level (perhaps increasing) and =20
    > our size and I will keep paying dues, assuming the XOG want this =20
    > type of community site.
    >
    > Requested Actions:
    >
    > =95 check out the website
    > =95 fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    > =95 give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us =
    ...
    > =95 give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, =20
    > problems, errors, suggestions, content, content
    >
    > Steve Sliwa
    > Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:19:33 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website Feedback
    In-Reply-To:  <68D6EA63-8349-4C97-8971-CF345C2AB1B8@mac.com>
    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1)
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Ahhhh. I see it now. Thanks. b
    On Mar 1, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

    Bruce

    Thanks Bruce.  Actually, I enjoyed working on the project this =20
    weekend.  My wife commented I must have been up to something fun.  In =20=

    any case, it seems like we all share passion on the Ximango and =20
    hopefully a virtual community will help increase our enjoyment.  =20
    Everyone please keep sending suggestions and I will tweak if possible.

    You asked the following:

    Question:  -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    Answer:  Yes.  I put it on top of the Forums Summary Page.  Here is a =20=

    link:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/Default.aspx?pageId=3D297075

    Do you think I should create a separate page and menu selection (easy =20=

    to do) or do you think this is enough?

    Question:  -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a =20
    daily summary of posts?
    Answer:  Yes, I just sent an e-mail describing.  Will add to the Site =20=

    Updates (BLOG) section, but let me repeat here as well ...

    Method for Subscribing to Forums:

    (1) Become a member (free)

    (2) Go to the Forums Summary Page to see a summary of activity

    (3) Go to the individual Forum pages from the menu on the left or the =20=

    links on the Summary Page.

    (4) Near the top right of the page just click on the 'subscribe' link =20=

    for each forum.

    (5) After subscribing to each Forum go to the Member Application page =20=

    (selecting it from menu on the left)

    (6) Click on link to 'edit member profile'

    (7) Click the link for 'subscriptions'

    (8) Click on the link for each Forum for which you want to change the =20=

    frequency (immediate, daily, weekly)

    Now when news items or questions come up in a Forum you will be =20
    notified via e-mail.

    Steve Sliwa
    Volunteer Webmaster



    On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:

    > steve --
    >
    > i have couple suggestions, though it may be i've missed something.
    >
    > first, let me say that this is an extraordinary well-conceived =20
    > site. i am honored that XOG inspired you to this. this is really =20
    > gonna create community in a way that's amazing.
    >
    > a couple thoughts:
    > -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    > -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a daily =20
    > summary of posts?
    >
    > what an amazing accomplishment! you're really gonna making soaring =20
    > better for everyone!
    >
    > yrs, B
    >
    >
    > On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:
    >
    > Dear Xoggers:
    >
    > As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that =20
    > eavesdropping on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I =20
    > could get my Ximango lined up.
    >
    > Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for =20=

    > his volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of =20
    > switching to a Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that =20
    > thread I suggested that more of community website with an upgraded =20
    > Forum engine might be the approach to go for with the next =20
    > generation.  In a side conversation Bruce encouraged me to bring up =20=

    > a prototype for the XOG membership to consider.  As the newest guy =20
    > on the block, I think it's appropriate for me to pay my dues by =20
    > trying to get the new website community started ...
    >
    > Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/
    >
    > Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest =20=

    > that some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.
    >
    > It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit =20
    > inputs, insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty =20
    > of dividing the Forums into several categories to help with search =20
    > of archival data.  Note that only members can create topics and add =20=

    > comments.  In your membership area you set up the subscriptions for =20=

    > each forum or topic individually to send you e-mail messages either =20=

    > immediately, daily, or weekly for changes in the respective forums.
    >
    > Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link =20
    > to the ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we =20
    > hope to find a way to get the data moved into the new community for =20=

    > searching, if we decide to go with the community idea.
    >
    > The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for =20
    > Flickr (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe =20
    > Gallery.  Flickr allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But =20
    > one downside is that slideshows of the collections can not be =20
    > shared until the content has been approved by Flickr management, =20
    > generally 3 to 5 days for small collections.  MobileMe allows for =20
    > easy upload and download of pictures and has nice viewing functions =20=

    > (I like carousel mode myself).  It does not allow extensive =20
    > comments though.  I am not sure if we should keep both approaches =20
    > or which one will suit us best.  (Feedback is needed).  Note that I =20=

    > initiated these collections with resources found on the web.  If =20
    > anyone has any material that you would like to me to delete or =20
    > change, please let me know.  In the meantime, I encourage people to =20=

    > add content to the various albums.
    >
    > There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.
    >
    > There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... =20
    > send me more].
    >
    > In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note =20
    > that each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile =20=

    > to others) and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.
    >
    > A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the =20=

    > participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to =20
    > share.  The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among =20
    > members.  However, it is also pretty easy to add static content, =20
    > links, graphics, pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It =20=

    > is relatively straightforward with these tools, now that initial =20
    > learning curve is over.
    >
    > After we get going there might be other volunteers to help =20
    > administer the website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it =20
    > will be low cycles for our activity level (perhaps increasing) and =20
    > our size and I will keep paying dues, assuming the XOG want this =20
    > type of community site.
    >
    > Requested Actions:
    >
    > =95 check out the website
    > =95 fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    > =95 give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us =
    ...
    > =95 give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, =20
    > problems, errors, suggestions, content, content
    >
    > Steve Sliwa
    > Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:45:38 -0500
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    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Michael Nagle <mnagle@VINEYARD.NET>
    Subject:      Re: XOG Community Website Feedback
    In-Reply-To:  <68D6EA63-8349-4C97-8971-CF345C2AB1B8@mac.com>
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    Hi Steve,
    thanks for all your work. Looks great
    Mike Nagle
    On Mar 1, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:

    > Bruce
    >
    > Thanks Bruce.  Actually, I enjoyed working on the project this =20
    > weekend.  My wife commented I must have been up to something fun.  =20
    > In any case, it seems like we all share passion on the Ximango and =20
    > hopefully a virtual community will help increase our enjoyment.  =20
    > Everyone please keep sending suggestions and I will tweak if possible.
    >
    > You asked the following:
    >
    > Question:  -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    > Answer:  Yes.  I put it on top of the Forums Summary Page.  Here is =20=

    > a link:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/Default.aspx?pageId=3D297075
    >
    > Do you think I should create a separate page and menu selection =20
    > (easy to do) or do you think this is enough?
    >
    > Question:  -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a =20=

    > daily summary of posts?
    > Answer:  Yes, I just sent an e-mail describing.  Will add to the =20
    > Site Updates (BLOG) section, but let me repeat here as well ...
    >
    > Method for Subscribing to Forums:
    >
    > (1) Become a member (free)
    >
    > (2) Go to the Forums Summary Page to see a summary of activity
    >
    > (3) Go to the individual Forum pages from the menu on the left or =20
    > the links on the Summary Page.
    >
    > (4) Near the top right of the page just click on the 'subscribe' =20
    > link for each forum.
    >
    > (5) After subscribing to each Forum go to the Member Application =20
    > page (selecting it from menu on the left)
    >
    > (6) Click on link to 'edit member profile'
    >
    > (7) Click the link for 'subscriptions'
    >
    > (8) Click on the link for each Forum for which you want to change =20
    > the frequency (immediate, daily, weekly)
    >
    > Now when news items or questions come up in a Forum you will be =20
    > notified via e-mail.
    >
    > Steve Sliwa
    > Volunteer Webmaster
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mar 1, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Bruce Schimmel wrote:
    >
    >> steve --
    >>
    >> i have couple suggestions, though it may be i've missed something.
    >>
    >> first, let me say that this is an extraordinary well-conceived =20
    >> site. i am honored that XOG inspired you to this. this is really =20
    >> gonna create community in a way that's amazing.
    >>
    >> a couple thoughts:
    >> -- do you have a tunnel to the old archive?
    >> -- is there a way to subscribe to forums and be emailed a daily =20
    >> summary of posts?
    >>
    >> what an amazing accomplishment! you're really gonna making soaring =20=

    >> better for everyone!
    >>
    >> yrs, B
    >>
    >>
    >> On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Steve Sliwa wrote:
    >>
    >> Dear Xoggers:
    >>
    >> As a new member to the organization I wanted to report that =20
    >> eavesdropping on the XOG listserv helped keep me engaged until I =20
    >> could get my Ximango lined up.
    >>
    >> Bruce Schimmel who has been carrying the load should be thanked for =20=

    >> his volunteer efforts.  Bruce recently brought up the idea of =20
    >> switching to a Google Group site.  In a recent e-mail on that =20
    >> thread I suggested that more of community website with an upgraded =20=

    >> Forum engine might be the approach to go for with the next =20
    >> generation.  In a side conversation Bruce encouraged me to bring up =20=

    >> a prototype for the XOG membership to consider.  As the newest guy =20=

    >> on the block, I think it's appropriate for me to pay my dues by =20
    >> trying to get the new website community started ...
    >>
    >> Please take a look at:  http://xog.memberlodge.org/
    >>
    >> Note that it works well with MS Explorer and Firefox.  I can attest =20=

    >> that some of the editing functions do not work well in Safari.
    >>
    >> It has an enhanced Forum website that will allow you to edit =20
    >> inputs, insert links, and/or include pictures.  I took the liberty =20=

    >> of dividing the Forums into several categories to help with search =20=

    >> of archival data.  Note that only members can create topics and add =20=

    >> comments.  In your membership area you set up the subscriptions for =20=

    >> each forum or topic individually to send you e-mail messages either =20=

    >> immediately, daily, or weekly for changes in the respective forums.
    >>
    >> Note at the top of the Forums Summary page I have included a link =20
    >> to the ListServ archive.  We will keep that alive for now, but we =20
    >> hope to find a way to get the data moved into the new community for =20=

    >> searching, if we decide to go with the community idea.
    >>
    >> The new website also includes a Photo Albums section.  One is for =20
    >> Flickr (set up by XimangoUSA) and another is via a MobileMe =20
    >> Gallery.  Flickr allows more of a forum approach for sharing.  But =20=

    >> one downside is that slideshows of the collections can not be =20
    >> shared until the content has been approved by Flickr management, =20
    >> generally 3 to 5 days for small collections.  MobileMe allows for =20
    >> easy upload and download of pictures and has nice viewing functions =20=

    >> (I like carousel mode myself).  It does not allow extensive =20
    >> comments though.  I am not sure if we should keep both approaches =20
    >> or which one will suit us best.  (Feedback is needed).  Note that I =20=

    >> initiated these collections with resources found on the web.  If =20
    >> anyone has any material that you would like to me to delete or =20
    >> change, please let me know.  In the meantime, I encourage people to =20=

    >> add content to the various albums.
    >>
    >> There is a start to a rudimentary meeting/event calendar function.
    >>
    >> There are starts to a Links page and a Resources page. [Help ... =20
    >> send me more].
    >>
    >> In the 'member only' areas one can see a membership roster (note =20
    >> that each member specifies what data in his/her profile is visibile =20=

    >> to others) and there is placeholder page inserted for future surveys.
    >>
    >> A couple of notes.  A community website will only be as good as the =20=

    >> participants, the sense of collegiality, and the willingness to =20
    >> share.  The encapsulated tools permit plenty of interactions among =20=

    >> members.  However, it is also pretty easy to add static content, =20
    >> links, graphics, pictures, and/or new pages/areas as suggested.  It =20=

    >> is relatively straightforward with these tools, now that initial =20
    >> learning curve is over.
    >>
    >> After we get going there might be other volunteers to help =20
    >> administer the website.  For now, I think I have it set up so it =20
    >> will be low cycles for our activity level (perhaps increasing) and =20=

    >> our size and I will keep paying dues, assuming the XOG want this =20
    >> type of community site.
    >>
    >> Requested Actions:
    >>
    >> =95 check out the website
    >> =95 fill out a membership form and join (free of course)
    >> =95 give me feedback on if you think this strategy will work for us =
    ...
    >> =95 give me feedback on details: what you like, don't like, typos, =20=

    >> problems, errors, suggestions, content, content
    >>
    >> Steve Sliwa
    >> Soon to be N175XS / Serial No.: 175
    >


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