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  • This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to be applied
    to the civilian fleet. Guess the Safety Gurus didn't want to leave it at
    that.

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    Date:         Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:07:01 -0800
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    From:         Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15
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    Chuck,
      
      What is the latest status on the bolt kits for complying with AD2007-23-15?
      
      Rob

    Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM> wrote:
      XOG-ers:

    Rest assured kits will be available.

    This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to be applied
    to the civilian fleet. Guess the Safety Gurus didn't want to leave it at
    that.

    It will take a little time to get the kits assembled, but we will be back
    with pricing and delivery ASAP.

    Chuck Cheeseman
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:32:07 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
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    Xoggers:

    As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15 
    approaches.

    I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison, 
    Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd 
    the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.

    I told Greg the following:

    1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective.
    I argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and 
    spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed 
    that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single 
    member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who 
    wrote that:
    "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested 
    change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft.  It was not intended to 
    be  applied
    to the civilian fleet."
    I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.

    2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has 
    not made kits available.

    Greg told me the following:

    1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative 
    Compliance comments will be accepted.
    Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for 
    comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this 
    case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not 
    consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in 
    receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.

    2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian 
    aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian 
    authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102. 
    Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's 
    initial inception.

    3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that 
    there were part kits ready.

    4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then 
    will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.

    MY COMMENT:

    I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be 
    replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi 
    (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to 
    ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be 
    checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the 
    existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO.

    1. Propose Alternatives Now
    Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness 
    Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 
    fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative 
    compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory 
    wants, this is exactly what we must do.

    But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then 
    there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.

    ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with 
    less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.

    A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!

    warmly, Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:41:45 -0800
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    From:         Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
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    Bruce,

    Thanks very much for contacting Greg Davison and discussing our plight (or should I say "fight"!!). After consulting the Aeromot SB and researching metric fasteners from the literature in my shop, I discovered 2 types of all metal "prevailing torque nuts" that should do the job of not coming undone during rotational loads. Unlike elastic stop nuts which can come undone, these nuts are all metal and have a slight elliptical deformity in the outer threads which locks them to the bolt when they are torqued down. They both are DIN 980V/ISO 7042. One is an all metal hexagonal prevailing torque type nut, part no. 12910 from Metric Fasteners Corp. (Fabory). The other nut is the Clevloc all metal hexagonal prevailing torque nut, part no. 12850 from Metric Fasteners. They run about 5 - 10 cents each, depending on diameter.

    I will also contact Greg Davison and suggest the use of these nuts in place of catellated (castle) nuts and cotter pins. But, this might be a long shot because AC 43.13-1A, Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices for Aircraft Repair, paragraph 230, p.119 on "Nuts" states, "Do not use self-locking nuts at joints which subject either the nut or bolt to rotation."

    Best regards,
    Holliday Obrecht


    --- bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM wrote:

    From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:32:07 -0500

    Xoggers:

    As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15
    approaches.

    I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison,
    Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd
    the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.

    I told Greg the following:

    1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective.
    I argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and
    spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed
    that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single
    member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who
    wrote that:
    "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested
    change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to
    be applied
    to the civilian fleet."
    I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.

    2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has
    not made kits available.

    Greg told me the following:

    1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative
    Compliance comments will be accepted.
    Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for
    comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this
    case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not
    consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in
    receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.

    2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian
    aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian
    authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102.
    Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's
    initial inception.

    3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that
    there were part kits ready.

    4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then
    will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.

    MY COMMENT:

    I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be
    replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi
    (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to
    ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be
    checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the
    existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO.

    1. Propose Alternatives Now
    Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness
    Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130
    fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative
    compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory
    wants, this is exactly what we must do.

    But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then
    there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.

    ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with
    less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.

    A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!

    warmly, Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:08 -0600
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
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    Dear All:

    Another solution might be to simply bore a transverse hole for a cotter pin
    in all designated bolts and use a new castled nut with a cotter pin in the
    old but newly drilled bolt as required. There is a special drill jig for
    this application available from Spruce (I think). I checked with my local
    A&P but he says that the AD must specifically allow this and this approach
    cannot be substituted at the initiative of the A&P.

    Best
    Ted


    --------------------------------------------------
    From: "Holliday Obrecht" <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:41 PM
    To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.

    > Bruce,
    >
    > Thanks very much for contacting Greg Davison and discussing our plight (or
    > should I say "fight"!!). After consulting the Aeromot SB and researching
    > metric fasteners from the literature in my shop, I discovered 2 types of
    > all metal "prevailing torque nuts" that should do the job of not coming
    > undone during rotational loads. Unlike elastic stop nuts which can come
    > undone, these nuts are all metal and have a slight elliptical deformity in
    > the outer threads which locks them to the bolt when they are torqued down.
    > They both are DIN 980V/ISO 7042. One is an all metal hexagonal prevailing
    > torque type nut, part no. 12910 from Metric Fasteners Corp. (Fabory). The
    > other nut is the Clevloc all metal hexagonal prevailing torque nut, part
    > no. 12850 from Metric Fasteners. They run about 5 - 10 cents each,
    > depending on diameter.
    >
    > I will also contact Greg Davison and suggest the use of these nuts in
    > place of catellated (castle) nuts and cotter pins. But, this might be a
    > long shot because AC 43.13-1A, Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and
    > Practices for Aircraft Repair, paragraph 230, p.119 on "Nuts" states, "Do
    > not use self-locking nuts at joints which subject either the nut or bolt
    > to rotation."
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Holliday Obrecht
    >
    >
    > --- bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM wrote:
    >
    > From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:32:07 -0500
    >
    > Xoggers:
    >
    > As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15
    > approaches.
    >
    > I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison,
    > Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd
    > the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.
    >
    > I told Greg the following:
    >
    > 1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective.
    > I argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and
    > spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed
    > that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single
    > member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    > As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who
    > wrote that:
    > "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested
    > change to
    > us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to
    > be applied
    > to the civilian fleet."
    > I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.
    >
    > 2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has
    > not made kits available.
    >
    > Greg told me the following:
    >
    > 1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative
    > Compliance comments will be accepted.
    > Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for
    > comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this
    > case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not
    > consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in
    > receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.
    >
    > 2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    > Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian
    > aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian
    > authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102.
    > Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's
    > initial inception.
    >
    > 3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    > A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that
    > there were part kits ready.
    >
    > 4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then
    > will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.
    >
    > MY COMMENT:
    >
    > I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be
    > replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi
    > (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to
    > ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be
    > checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the
    > existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    > locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.
    >
    > WHAT YOU CAN DO.
    >
    > 1. Propose Alternatives Now
    > Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness
    > Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130
    > fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative
    > compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory
    > wants, this is exactly what we must do.
    >
    > But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then
    > there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.
    >
    > ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with
    > less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.
    >
    > A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!
    >
    > warmly, Bruce
    >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:52:09 -0500
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    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    Comments: cc: ximangousa@aol.com
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    Ted, Folks -

    If you can think of ways to make it easier to comply, now is the time 
    to suggest it to Ximango and Greg Davison.

    Regarding the price of the parts kit: I contacted Aeromot directly, 
    and was quoted a price of $380, plus $75 for shipping for the 26 
    items listed in their service bulletin, 200-20-102.

    I asked if that these 26 items includes hardware that was already 
    been installed on the main landing gear upgrade (SB 200-32-100),
    and am waiting for an answer.

    Does anyone know?

    yrs, Bruce


    On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Ted Gordon wrote:

    > Dear All:
    >
    > Another solution might be to simply bore a transverse hole for a 
    > cotter pin in all designated bolts and use a new castled nut with a 
    > cotter pin in the old but newly drilled bolt as required. There is 
    > a special drill jig for this application available from Spruce (I 
    > think). I checked with my local A&P but he says that the AD must 
    > specifically allow this and this approach cannot be substituted at 
    > the initiative of the A&P.
    >
    > Best
    > Ted
    >
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------
    > From: "Holliday Obrecht" <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:41 PM
    > To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    > Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    >
    >> Bruce,
    >>
    >> Thanks very much for contacting Greg Davison and discussing our 
    >> plight (or should I say "fight"!!). After consulting the Aeromot 
    >> SB and researching metric fasteners from the literature in my 
    >> shop, I discovered 2 types of all metal "prevailing torque nuts" 
    >> that should do the job of not coming undone during rotational 
    >> loads. Unlike elastic stop nuts which can come undone, these nuts 
    >> are all metal and have a slight elliptical deformity in the outer 
    >> threads which locks them to the bolt when they are torqued down. 
    >> They both are DIN 980V/ISO 7042. One is an all metal hexagonal 
    >> prevailing torque type nut, part no. 12910 from Metric Fasteners 
    >> Corp. (Fabory). The other nut is the Clevloc all metal hexagonal 
    >> prevailing torque nut, part no. 12850 from Metric Fasteners. They 
    >> run about 5 - 10 cents each, depending on diameter.
    >>
    >> I will also contact Greg Davison and suggest the use of these nuts 
    >> in place of catellated (castle) nuts and cotter pins. But, this 
    >> might be a long shot because AC 43.13-1A, Acceptable Methods, 
    >> Techniques, and Practices for Aircraft Repair, paragraph 230, p.
    >> 119 on "Nuts" states, "Do not use self-locking nuts at joints 
    >> which subject either the nut or bolt to rotation."
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >> Holliday Obrecht
    >>
    >>
    >> --- bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM wrote:
    >>
    >> From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    >> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    >> Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    >> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:32:07 -0500
    >>
    >> Xoggers:
    >>
    >> As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15
    >> approaches.
    >>
    >> I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison,
    >> Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd
    >> the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.
    >>
    >> I told Greg the following:
    >>
    >> 1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective.
    >> I argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and
    >> spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed
    >> that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single
    >> member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    >> As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who
    >> wrote that:
    >> "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested
    >> change to
    >> us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to
    >> be applied
    >> to the civilian fleet."
    >> I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.
    >>
    >> 2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has
    >> not made kits available.
    >>
    >> Greg told me the following:
    >>
    >> 1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative
    >> Compliance comments will be accepted.
    >> Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for
    >> comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this
    >> case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not
    >> consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in
    >> receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.
    >>
    >> 2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    >> Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian
    >> aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian
    >> authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102.
    >> Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's
    >> initial inception.
    >>
    >> 3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    >> A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that
    >> there were part kits ready.
    >>
    >> 4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then
    >> will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.
    >>
    >> MY COMMENT:
    >>
    >> I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be
    >> replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi
    >> (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to
    >> ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be
    >> checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the
    >> existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic 
    >> self-
    >> locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.
    >>
    >> WHAT YOU CAN DO.
    >>
    >> 1. Propose Alternatives Now
    >> Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness
    >> Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130
    >> fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative
    >> compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory
    >> wants, this is exactly what we must do.
    >>
    >> But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then
    >> there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.
    >>
    >> ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with
    >> less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.
    >>
    >> A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!
    >>
    >> warmly, Bruce
    >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:37:07 -0800
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
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    Ted,

    I had contacted Eng. Luiz Castilho at Aeromot about drilling our existing bolts and putting on our own castle nuts and cotter pins. I could easily set up the drill press and tooling to do this and it would certainly be an economical alternative. He advised against it stating the bolts are hardened steel and would be too difficult to drill. Also, he said some bolts are different lengths in the AD.

    Oh well, I was with you on this!

    Hope you and Annie have a great Holiday Season.

    All the best,
    Holliday






    --- tedjgordon@ATT.NET wrote:

    From: Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:08 -0600

    Dear All:

    Another solution might be to simply bore a transverse hole for a cotter pin
    in all designated bolts and use a new castled nut with a cotter pin in the
    old but newly drilled bolt as required. There is a special drill jig for
    this application available from Spruce (I think). I checked with my local
    A&P but he says that the AD must specifically allow this and this approach
    cannot be substituted at the initiative of the A&P.

    Best
    Ted


    --------------------------------------------------
    From: "Holliday Obrecht" <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:41 PM
    To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.

    > Bruce,
    >
    > Thanks very much for contacting Greg Davison and discussing our plight (or
    > should I say "fight"!!). After consulting the Aeromot SB and researching
    > metric fasteners from the literature in my shop, I discovered 2 types of
    > all metal "prevailing torque nuts" that should do the job of not coming
    > undone during rotational loads. Unlike elastic stop nuts which can come
    > undone, these nuts are all metal and have a slight elliptical deformity in
    > the outer threads which locks them to the bolt when they are torqued down.
    > They both are DIN 980V/ISO 7042. One is an all metal hexagonal prevailing
    > torque type nut, part no. 12910 from Metric Fasteners Corp. (Fabory). The
    > other nut is the Clevloc all metal hexagonal prevailing torque nut, part
    > no. 12850 from Metric Fasteners. They run about 5 - 10 cents each,
    > depending on diameter.
    >
    > I will also contact Greg Davison and suggest the use of these nuts in
    > place of catellated (castle) nuts and cotter pins. But, this might be a
    > long shot because AC 43.13-1A, Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and
    > Practices for Aircraft Repair, paragraph 230, p.119 on "Nuts" states, "Do
    > not use self-locking nuts at joints which subject either the nut or bolt
    > to rotation."
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Holliday Obrecht
    >
    >
    > --- bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM wrote:
    >
    > From: Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:32:07 -0500
    >
    > Xoggers:
    >
    > As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15
    > approaches.
    >
    > I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison,
    > Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd
    > the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.
    >
    > I told Greg the following:
    >
    > 1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective.
    > I argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and
    > spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed
    > that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single
    > member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    > As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who
    > wrote that:
    > "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested
    > change to
    > us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft. It was not intended to
    > be applied
    > to the civilian fleet."
    > I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.
    >
    > 2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has
    > not made kits available.
    >
    > Greg told me the following:
    >
    > 1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative
    > Compliance comments will be accepted.
    > Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for
    > comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this
    > case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not
    > consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in
    > receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.
    >
    > 2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    > Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian
    > aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian
    > authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102.
    > Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's
    > initial inception.
    >
    > 3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    > A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that
    > there were part kits ready.
    >
    > 4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then
    > will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.
    >
    > MY COMMENT:
    >
    > I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be
    > replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi
    > (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to
    > ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be
    > checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the
    > existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    > locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.
    >
    > WHAT YOU CAN DO.
    >
    > 1. Propose Alternatives Now
    > Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness
    > Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130
    > fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative
    > compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory
    > wants, this is exactly what we must do.
    >
    > But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then
    > there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.
    >
    > ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with
    > less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.
    >
    > A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!
    >
    > warmly, Bruce
    >
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:33:18 +1100
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    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Sandra <shemango@BIGPOND.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    In-Reply-To:  <0DE9FFF5-E591-49C4-B0CB-117A6C9ED062@schimmel.com>
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    Good Letter

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 3:32 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.


    Xoggers:

    As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15 
    approaches.

    I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison, 
    Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd 
    the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.

    I told Greg the following:

    1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective. I
    argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and 
    spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed 
    that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single 
    member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who 
    wrote that:
    "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested 
    change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft.  It was not intended to 
    be  applied
    to the civilian fleet."
    I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.

    2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has 
    not made kits available.

    Greg told me the following:

    1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative 
    Compliance comments will be accepted.
    Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for 
    comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this 
    case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not 
    consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in 
    receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.

    2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian 
    aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian 
    authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102. 
    Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's 
    initial inception.

    3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that 
    there were part kits ready.

    4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then 
    will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.

    MY COMMENT:

    I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be 
    replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi 
    (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to 
    ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be 
    checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the 
    existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO.

    1. Propose Alternatives Now
    Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness 
    Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 
    fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative 
    compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory 
    wants, this is exactly what we must do.

    But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then 
    there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.

    ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with 
    less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.

    A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!

    warmly, Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:33:34 +1100
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Sandra <shemango@BIGPOND.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    In-Reply-To:  <0DE9FFF5-E591-49C4-B0CB-117A6C9ED062@schimmel.com>
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    Good Letter Br

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 3:32 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.


    Xoggers:

    As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15 
    approaches.

    I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison, 
    Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd 
    the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.

    I told Greg the following:

    1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective. I
    argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and 
    spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed 
    that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single 
    member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who 
    wrote that:
    "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested 
    change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft.  It was not intended to 
    be  applied
    to the civilian fleet."
    I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.

    2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has 
    not made kits available.

    Greg told me the following:

    1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative 
    Compliance comments will be accepted.
    Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for 
    comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this 
    case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not 
    consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in 
    receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.

    2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian 
    aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian 
    authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102. 
    Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's 
    initial inception.

    3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that 
    there were part kits ready.

    4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then 
    will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.

    MY COMMENT:

    I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be 
    replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi 
    (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to 
    ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be 
    checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the 
    existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO.

    1. Propose Alternatives Now
    Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness 
    Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 
    fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative 
    compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory 
    wants, this is exactly what we must do.

    But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then 
    there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.

    ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with 
    less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.

    A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!

    warmly, Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:43:41 +1100
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Sandra <shemango@BIGPOND.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.
    In-Reply-To:  <0DE9FFF5-E591-49C4-B0CB-117A6C9ED062@schimmel.com>
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    Good Letter Bruce! Thanks fellas for your work in persuing this matter!

    On a sad note, there was a fatality in the Gliding Grandprix in NZ on
    Friday- a German Pilot. They don't know what happened. See
    w.gpgliding.com & you can watch the races.

    On a much, much happier note:

    Merry Christmas from Down Under, & Happy Landings for the New Year.

    Sandra Shemango.



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2007 3:32 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 What happened. How you can save time and $.


    Xoggers:

    As you know the time for compliance with the "surprise" AD 2007-23-15 
    approaches.

    I had a pleasant and productive conversation with Greg Davison, 
    Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 fax 816 329 4090, who OK'd 
    the AD for the FAA, and oversees compliance.

    I told Greg the following:

    1. The comment period was meaningless, or completely ineffective. I
    argued therefore that AD is in violation of the both the letter and 
    spirit of the procedural mandate that the general public be informed 
    that an AD is imminent, and given a chance to comment. Not a single 
    member of XOG has said they were aware of the AD.
    As further evidence I cited Chuck Cheeseman, Ximango's importer, who 
    wrote that:
    "This AD caught me by surprise - it originated as a USAF-requested 
    change to
    us, which we set up for their 14 aircraft.  It was not intended to 
    be  applied
    to the civilian fleet."
    I therefore asked Greg to reopen the comment period.

    2. I told Greg that compliance will be difficult, since Ximango has 
    not made kits available.

    Greg told me the following:

    1. Yes, there was a failure to inform. But only Alternative 
    Compliance comments will be accepted.
    Greg told me that the FAA depends on reaching aircraft owners for 
    comment through manufacturers, distributors and user groups. In this 
    case, Greg said, there was a failure to do so. Still, he did not 
    consider reopening the comment period. But he is interested in 
    receiving informed comment about alternative compliance.

    2. AD originated with Ximango through DAC.
    Greg informed me that this FAA AD essentially copied a Brazilian 
    aviation authority (DAC) AD 2005-12-01, and that the Brazilian 
    authority issued their AD directly from Aeromot's SB 200-20-102. 
    Bottom line: Greg says that Ximango is responsible for the AD's 
    initial inception.

    3. Ximango says part kits are available.
    A Caroline Pachecko (sp?) from Ximango previously told Greg that 
    there were part kits ready.

    4. Greg said he will be calling Chuck for clarification, and then 
    will call Ximango directly to confirm if part kits are available.

    MY COMMENT:

    I am not an engineer. However, some of the items that need to be 
    replaced are not subject to rotational loads during flight or taxi 
    (like the wing hinges?). Paint could be applied to those nust to 
    ascertain that their bolts haven't moved, and that these can be 
    checked periodically. Or, an additional nut could be added to the 
    existing nut to back it up. Or replace elastics with non-elastic self-
    locking. Just some ideas. But you may know better.

    WHAT YOU CAN DO.

    1. Propose Alternatives Now
    Contact Greg and Ximango now with alternatives. Per the Airworthiness 
    Directive, Greg Davison, Glider Program Manager, FAA, 816 329 4130 
    fax 816 329 4090 is tasked with taking comments as to alternative 
    compliance. His bottom line: if this is exactly what the factory 
    wants, this is exactly what we must do.

    But I also take that to mean that if the factory is flexible, then 
    there could be flexibility. So we need some dialog with the factory.

    ACT NOW: Suggest to Greg and (especially) Ximango to come up with 
    less difficult ways to comply. We have a window that's closing fast.

    A joyous holiday season to all, and a happy new year!

    warmly, Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:46:10 EST
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: NZ Race Fatality
    MIME-Version: 1.0
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    Sandra,
     
    The fatality in the NZ races was all over the aviation news here in  the USA
    also - but, as with your message, no details about how or why.  It  is sad -
    he was a great pilot, from all accounts here and in Europe.
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:24:14 EST
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15
    Comments: cc: cviana@aeromot.com.br
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    Everyone,
     
    We want you to know that Ximango USA has been working this AD since we  heard
    of it.  It came as a surprise to us, since the intention back in 2004  was to
    furnish the USAF with a means to standardize their aircraft fasteners to 
    their written practices, not to change the civilian standards of JAR 22 as 
    applied to the Ximango.  In fifteen years, and hundreds of thousands of  flight
    hours, Aeromot states that there has never been an unintended loosening  report
    for the fasteners affected. 
     
    However, Brazil has issued an AD and the FAA, by law, must follow  suit. So,
    here we are.
     
    So far, we conclude there is no apparent way by alternate means to shortcut 
    the AD requirements to change the bolts and nuts.   This is a futile  effort,
    we are convinced, after talking to the FAA at length.   Specifically,  you all
    should be aware that drilling the existing bolts and  changing the nuts is
    NOT an option, because the required bolt length increases  when the bolt is
    drilled and equipped with a castellated nut and cotter  pin.  The bottom line is
    you need to install the bolt kit called out in the  Service Bulletin.
     
    Our major effort at Ximango USA so far has been to arrange for  bolt kits
    from the factory at the most reasonable cost to owners and, in  instances where
    needed, to get them quickly.  What we have arranged is that  you all can buy
    the factory bolt kit at cost - we and Aeromot have agreed not to  make any
    profit from this effort. 
     
    To manufacture the kit requires Aeromot to order the DIN bolts from Europe 
    of the proper length, drilling them in their shop, and combine them with the 
    proper nuts and cotter pins for shipment to us.  We will parcel out the 
    shipment to individuals, by USPS mailer or FedEx as necessary.  You all  will be
    billed only the cost of this effort, with no markup.
     
    The cost of this kit is $380 plus shipping, which we estimate at $50 each 
    for the first 10 kits and $30 each for the remainder, to be shipped next 
    spring.  Please let me know your needs.  I know this is not a happy  moment - but
    we're trying to do our best!
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA
     



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    Date:         Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:07:46 +0000
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15

    Dear Chuck:

    Thanks for your efforts.

    Please put me down for a kit. My next annual is in February, and I'd certainly like to have the new bolts installed then. As I mentioned in an earlier email I will be in Sarasota, Florida for the month of January and the first week of February, and I can drive over and pick up the kit if possible.

    Best
    Ted Gordon

    -------------- Original message ----------------------
    From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    >
    > Everyone,

    > We want you to know that Ximango USA has been working this AD since we  heard
    > of it.  It came as a surprise to us, since the intention back in 2004  was to
    > furnish the USAF with a means to standardize their aircraft fasteners to 
    > their written practices, not to change the civilian standards of JAR 22 as 
    > applied to the Ximango.  In fifteen years, and hundreds of thousands of  flight
    > hours, Aeromot states that there has never been an unintended loosening  report
    > for the fasteners affected. 

    > However, Brazil has issued an AD and the FAA, by law, must follow  suit. So,
    > here we are.

    > So far, we conclude there is no apparent way by alternate means to shortcut 
    > the AD requirements to change the bolts and nuts.   This is a futile  effort,
    > we are convinced, after talking to the FAA at length.   Specifically,  you all
    > should be aware that drilling the existing bolts and  changing the nuts is
    > NOT an option, because the required bolt length increases  when the bolt is
    > drilled and equipped with a castellated nut and cotter  pin.  The bottom line is
    > you need to install the bolt kit called out in the  Service Bulletin.

    > Our major effort at Ximango USA so far has been to arrange for  bolt kits
    > from the factory at the most reasonable cost to owners and, in  instances where
    > needed, to get them quickly.  What we have arranged is that  you all can buy
    > the factory bolt kit at cost - we and Aeromot have agreed not to  make any
    > profit from this effort. 

    > To manufacture the kit requires Aeromot to order the DIN bolts from Europe 
    > of the proper length, drilling them in their shop, and combine them with the 
    > proper nuts and cotter pins for shipment to us.  We will parcel out the 
    > shipment to individuals, by USPS mailer or FedEx as necessary.  You all  will be
    > billed only the cost of this effort, with no markup.

    > The cost of this kit is $380 plus shipping, which we estimate at $50 each 
    > for the first 10 kits and $30 each for the remainder, to be shipped next 
    > spring.  Please let me know your needs.  I know this is not a happy  moment -
    > but
    > we're trying to do our best!

    > Chuck
    > Ximango USA

    >
    >
    >
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    Date:         Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:58:17 EST
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    Comments: cc: maryazimmerman@cox.net, ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET, bonak@pacbell.net,
              MTNVIEW@AMIGO.NET, chris@pacificaerosport.com, MSPUD223766@aol.com,
              hpeier@cfl.rr.com, KEITHPHI@aol.com
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    Owners and Mechanics,
     
    We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    expect the next 10 in one week.
     
    We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    e-mail, with payment to be by check.
     
    At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    distribution:
     
    URGENT:
     
    SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    SN 135 (John Lawton)
    SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    SN 151 (Ted Hauser)
     
    LATER IS OK:
     
    SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    SN 124 (John Barker)
    SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    shipping addresses. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:20:40 EST
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE #2 (6 Feb)
    Comments: cc: maryazimmerman@cox.net, ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET, bonak@pacbell.net,
              MTNVIEW@AMIGO.NET, chris@pacificaerosport.com, MSPUD223766@aol.com,
              hpeier@cfl.rr.com, KEITHPHI@aol.com
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    Owners and Mechanics:
     
    Today we packaged and shipped nine kits via FedEx, either next-day or  second
    day, as you asked. Other documented urgent requirements will ship  tomorrow. 
    To follow is an updated and annotated list and status report:  note that
    corrections to my previous e-mail are in  boldface:
     
    URGENT:

    SN 151 (Mary  Ann)                                        Sent  Feb 6 via 
    FedEx                                   
    SN 135 (John  Lawton)                                    Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN 123 (Rob  Morgan)                                     Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN 51  (Placerville  Aviation)                            Sent  Feb 6 via
    FedEx
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security  Aviation)       Sent Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN  106 (Mountainview  Aeromotive)                  Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco  Aviation)              Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN 156 (Ralph  Ragland)                                 Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN 59 (Dennis  Guilfoyle)                                Will  ship tomorrow
    SN 151 (Ted  Hauser)                                     Sent  Feb 6 via FedEx
    SN 63 (Ted Gordon/Landmar  Aviation)        Will ship tomorrow via UPS 
    Ground, per request

    LATER IS  OK:

    SN 72 and 124  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport, for  the Angell-flown Ximango and
    John Barker, respectively)
    SN 96 (Horst  Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCann)
    SN 57 (Bing  Manawadu)
    SN 97 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam  Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    As you can understand, this is a fairly major record-keeping and shipping 
    challenge to get all of you what you need and by when.  Please send any 
    questions or inputs to me via e-mail, if possible, so that I can keep to a  minimum
    the slips of paper and notes on my kitchen napkins!  Sometimes  I wipe my chin
    when eating home-smoked ribs and....  I have built a  spreadsheet in Excel to
    tally ALL inputs and the status.  As soon as Bruce  Schimmel figures out how
    best to send it to all XOG-ers, I can send out  major status reports as an
    Excel attachment.  Bruce: maybe the  simplest thing is to send me the XOG e-mail
    address list??
     
    BTW, if ANYONE knows of a Ximango owner that is not on  XOG, please let them
    know how to get on the list:  contact _bruce@schimmel.com_
    (mailto:bruce@schimmel.com) !  You  FBO's and mechanics who are maintaining Ximangos should sign,
    up too.
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:29:37 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    In-Reply-To:  <be3.24a1b3ed.34dcbcd9@aol.com>
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     Chuck,

    You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a hanger.

    I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Owners and Mechanics,
     
    We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    expect the next 10 in one week.
     
    We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    e-mail, with payment to be by check.
     
    At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    distribution:
     
    URGENT:
     
    SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    SN 135 (John Lawton)
    SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    SN 151 (Ted Hauser)
     
    LATER IS OK:
     
    SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    SN 124 (John Barker)
    SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    shipping addresses. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:06:40 +0000
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)

    Dear Bing:

    I don;t know if you're interested but my aching back has led me to develop a mobile "A" frame that I use to help fold and unfold the wings. If you'd like I'll photograph it for you.

    Best
    Ted

    -------------- Original message ----------------------
    From: Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    >
    >  Chuck,
    >
    > You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a
    > hanger.
    >
    > I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.
    >
    >

    >
    >
    > Bing Manawadu
    >

    >
    >

    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    > Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Owners and Mechanics,

    > We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    > Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    > expect the next 10 in one week.

    > We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    > urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    > e-mail, with payment to be by check.

    > At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    > distribution:

    > URGENT:

    > SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    > SN 135 (John Lawton)
    > SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    > SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    > SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    > SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    > SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    > SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    > SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    > SN 151 (Ted Hauser)

    > LATER IS OK:

    > SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    > SN 124 (John Barker)
    > SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    > SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    > SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    > SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    > SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    > SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    > SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    > SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 

    > Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    > shipping addresses. 

    > Regards,

    > Chuck
    > Ximango USA
    >
    >
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    Date:         Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:31:26 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    In-Reply-To:  <021120080006.16526.47AF91900007034F0000408E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF02010B9D0109060B0A9B@att.net>
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     Ted,

    Thank for the prompt reply.

    I built a hanger with a 66 foot electrically operated door which solved my problem of folding the wings.

    Out of curiosity I am most interesting to see how you solved the problem in a far more cost effective manner.


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ted Gordon <tedjgordon@ATT.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 4:06 pm
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Dear Bing:

    I don;t know if you're interested but my aching back has led me to develop a
    mobile "A" frame that I use to help fold and unfold the wings. If you'd like
    I'll photograph it for you.

    Best
    Ted

    -------------- Original message ----------------------
    From: Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    >
    >  Chuck,
    >
    > You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a
    > hanger.
    >
    > I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.
    >
    >

    >
    >
    > Bing Manawadu
    >

    >
    >

    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    > Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Owners and Mechanics,

    > We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    > Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    > expect the next 10 in one week.

    > We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    > urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    > e-mail, with payment to be by check.

    > At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    > distribution:

    > URGENT:

    > SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    > SN 135 (John Lawton)
    > SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    > SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    > SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    > SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    > SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    > SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    > SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    > SN 151 (Ted Hauser)

    > LATER IS OK:

    > SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    > SN 124 (John Barker)
    > SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    > SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    > SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    > SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    > SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    > SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    > SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    > SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 

    > Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    > shipping addresses. 

    > Regards,

    > Chuck
    > Ximango USA
    >
    >
    >
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    Date:         Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:35:08 EST
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
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    Dr. Bing,
     
    With that big door, you can put your Citation Excel in there, along  with
    your Ximango.  Mine is only 48 feet - but it will accomodate a little  Lear or a
    little Citation.
     
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    Date:         Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:30:15 -0800
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

    Bing,

    I pull mine into the hangar with a PowerTow tug fitted with long extensions that grab onto the tail wheel scissor bolt.  It's an easy one-man operation.  I also designed and built a simple wooden lever that rolls under and fits under the fuselage about 1' in front of the tail wheel that I can easily (one-handed) lift the whole tail section into the air about 6" off the ground.  Handy for tailwheel maintenance and to turn the tail wheel assembly around with to easily hook up to the tug.

    Best regards,
    Holliday
    SN 130



    --- bmanawadu@AOL.COM wrote:

    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    To:           XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    Date:         Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:29:37 -0500

     Chuck,

    You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a hanger.

    I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Owners and Mechanics,
     
    We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    expect the next 10 in one week.
     
    We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    e-mail, with payment to be by check.
     
    At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    distribution:
     
    URGENT:
     
    SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    SN 135 (John Lawton)
    SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    SN 151 (Ted Hauser)
     
    LATER IS OK:
     
    SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    SN 124 (John Barker)
    SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    shipping addresses. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:49:53 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    In-Reply-To:  <20080211183015.EC654AE3@resin11.mta.everyone.net>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
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    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

     


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 6:30 pm
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Bing,

    I pull mine into the hangar with a PowerTow tug fitted with long extensions that
    grab onto the tail wheel scissor bolt.  It's an easy one-man operation.  I also
    designed and built a simple wooden lever that rolls under and fits under the
    fuselage about 1' in front of the tail wheel that I can easily (one-handed) lift
    the whole tail section into the air about 6" off the ground.  Handy for
    tailwheel maintenance and to turn the tail wheel assembly around with to easily
    hook up to the tug.

    Best regards,
    Holliday
    SN 130



    --- bmanawadu@AOL.COM wrote:

    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    To:           XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    Date:         Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:29:37 -0500

     Chuck,

    You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a
    hanger.

    I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Owners and Mechanics,
     
    We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    expect the next 10 in one week.
     
    We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    e-mail, with payment to be by check.
     
    At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    distribution:
     
    URGENT:
     
    SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    SN 135 (John Lawton)
    SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    SN 151 (Ted Hauser)
     
    LATER IS OK:
     
    SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    SN 124 (John Barker)
    SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    shipping addresses. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:51:36 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    In-Reply-To:  <20080211183015.EC654AE3@resin11.mta.everyone.net>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

    Holliday,

    Thanks for the information.

    with best regards


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Holliday Obrecht <HollidayObrecht@COPPER.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 6:30 pm
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Bing,

    I pull mine into the hangar with a PowerTow tug fitted with long extensions that
    grab onto the tail wheel scissor bolt.  It's an easy one-man operation.  I also
    designed and built a simple wooden lever that rolls under and fits under the
    fuselage about 1' in front of the tail wheel that I can easily (one-handed) lift
    the whole tail section into the air about 6" off the ground.  Handy for
    tailwheel maintenance and to turn the tail wheel assembly around with to easily
    hook up to the tug.

    Best regards,
    Holliday
    SN 130



    --- bmanawadu@AOL.COM wrote:

    From:         Bing Manawadu <bmanawadu@AOL.COM>
    To:           XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)
    Date:         Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:29:37 -0500

     Chuck,

    You were developing a "dolly" to pull and push the Ximango in and out of a
    hanger.

    I am interested in purchasing a device which will ease my aging back.


     


    Bing Manawadu

     


     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:58 am
    Subject: AD 2007-23-15 UPDATE (6 Feb)










    Owners and Mechanics,
     
    We, as of this morning, have received the first 15 complete kits  for Aeromot
    Service Bulletin 200-20-102 needed to satisfy the FAA AD  2007-23-15.  We
    expect the next 10 in one week.
     
    We will begin shipping this afternoon, via FedEx to those of you that  are in
    urgent need,  and to everyone else as you require.  Invoices  will follow via
    e-mail, with payment to be by check.
     
    At this point, I have orders from 20 owners or mechanics, with the  following
    distribution:
     
    URGENT:
     
    SN 151 (Mary Ann)
    SN 135 (John Lawton)
    SN 123 (Rob Morgan)
    SN 51 (71??)  (Placerville Aviation)
    SN 152 (Bruce Sidlinger/Security Aviation)
    SN 106 (Mountainview Aeromotive)
    SN (65) GaryKeefer/Gemco Aviation)
    SN 156 (Ralph Ragland)
    SN 59 (Dennis Guilfoyle)
    SN 151 (Ted Hauser)
     
    LATER IS OK:
     
    SN ??  (Chris at Pacific Aerosport)
    SN 124 (John Barker)
    SN 96 (Horst Stratmann)
    SN 130 (Holliday Obrecht)
    SN 161 (Jim McCAnn)
    SN 57 (Bing Manawadu)
    SN 72 (Roland Martin)
    SN 46 (Sam Mollett)
    SN 131 (Hermann Fasel)
    SN 134 (Doug Dellmore) 
     
    Please e-mail me ASAP with any updates needed, including urgency and 
    shipping addresses. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA


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