During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced
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During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced -
of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The engine
has only 200 total hours!
He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
Thanks
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
> John,
>
> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>
> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman, President
> Ximango USA
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G'Day Hermann,
We have recently had an AD circulated on some serial numbers
of oil pump but, from memory, this was something to do with the pump drive
having to be replaced. Do you use Castrol GPS oil? Regards, Paul H.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Hermann F. Fasel
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 8:27 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: defective oil pump
During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some
wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced -
of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The
engine
has only 200 total hours!
He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
Thanks
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
> John,
>
> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>
> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman, President
> Ximango USA
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:45:17 -0700
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Paul,
thanks. No I am using Mobil 1 Synthetic oil.
Regards, Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Enginering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>:
> G'Day Hermann,
> We have recently had an AD circulated on some serial numbers
> of oil pump but, from memory, this was something to do with the pump drive
> having to be replaced. Do you use Castrol GPS oil? Regards, Paul H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
> Behalf Of Hermann F. Fasel
> Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 8:27 AM
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject: defective oil pump
>
> During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
> leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some
> wear
> inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
> replaced -
> of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The
> engine
> has only 200 total hours!
> He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
> before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
> engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
>
> Thanks
> Hermann
>
>
> Hermann F. Fasel
> Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
> Tel.: 520-621-2771
> Fax: 520-621-8191
>
>
> Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
>
>> John,
>>
>> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
>> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
>> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>>
>> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
>> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>>
>> Chuck Cheeseman, President
>> Ximango USA
>
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Does the owners manual require hand cranking? I do this as a matter of
course, but with modern oils I would not have thought this necessary. Paul
H.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of Hermann F. Fasel
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 8:45 AM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: defective oil pump
Paul,
thanks. No I am using Mobil 1 Synthetic oil.
Regards, Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Enginering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>:
> G'Day Hermann,
> We have recently had an AD circulated on some serial
numbers
> of oil pump but, from memory, this was something to do with the pump drive
> having to be replaced. Do you use Castrol GPS oil? Regards, Paul H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
> Behalf Of Hermann F. Fasel
> Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 8:27 AM
> To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
> Subject: defective oil pump
>
> During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small
oil
> leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some
> wear
> inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
> replaced -
> of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The
> engine
> has only 200 total hours!
> He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
> before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane
100
> engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner
did.
>
> Thanks
> Hermann
>
>
> Hermann F. Fasel
> Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
> Tel.: 520-621-2771
> Fax: 520-621-8191
>
>
> Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
>
>> John,
>>
>> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
>> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
>> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>>
>> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series
engines
>> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>>
>> Chuck Cheeseman, President
>> Ximango USA
>
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Re oil pump
I am curious to know why hand cranking will assist in the correct lubrication of the motor or pump. I thought the purpose of hand cranking was to displace any oil lin the motor to the dry sump theby giving an accurate measure of theamount of oil
regards john
----- Original Message ----
From: Hermann F. Fasel <faselh@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:26:59 AM
Subject: defective oil pump
During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced -
of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The engine
has only 200 total hours!
He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
Thanks
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
> John,
>
> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>
> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman, President
> Ximango USA
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:32:40 -0700
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Hermann,
I too use Mobile 1 in my 100 hp Rotax 912S. Just curious, do you use the automotive Mobile 1 or the MX4T motorcycle oil (10W-40)? I make a habit of pulling the prop through till I hear the burp before checking the oil level in the reservoir.....not sure if that makes any difference for the oil pump. The prior owner had this practice and recommended it to me, which I have always used. Engine has more than 400 hours on it now. Fortunately, I have no signs of oil leaking.
Rob
"Hermann F. Fasel" <faselh@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> wrote:
During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced -
of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The engine
has only 200 total hours!
He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
Thanks
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
> John,
>
> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>
> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman, President
> Ximango USA
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Think you're correct John. Modern oils have a hell of a lot of cling and
will continue to lubricate before new oil is introduced to the surfaces. Can
only think that Hermann must have had a defective pump? How're things with
you John? Our new Air Park is just about to come on line.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
Behalf Of john adbon
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2007 5:01 PM
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: defective oil pump
Re oil pump
I am curious to know why hand cranking will assist in the correct
lubrication of the motor or pump. I thought the purpose of hand cranking was
to displace any oil lin the motor to the dry sump theby giving an accurate
measure of theamount of oil
regards john
----- Original Message ----
From: Hermann F. Fasel <faselh@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU>
To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:26:59 AM
Subject: defective oil pump
During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very small oil
leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some
wear
inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
replaced -
of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem? The
engine
has only 200 total hours!
He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
Thanks
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
> John,
>
> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>
> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>
> Chuck Cheeseman, President
> Ximango USA
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From: "Hermann F. Fasel" <faselh@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU>
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Rob,
I am using the MX4T motorcycle oil (10W-40).
Hermann
Hermann F. Fasel
Aerospace & Mechanical Enginering
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721
Tel.: 520-621-2771
Fax: 520-621-8191
Quoting Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>:
> Hermann,
>
> I too use Mobile 1 in my 100 hp Rotax 912S. Just curious, do you
> use the automotive Mobile 1 or the MX4T motorcycle oil (10W-40)? I
> make a habit of pulling the prop through till I hear the burp before
> checking the oil level in the reservoir.....not sure if that makes
> any difference for the oil pump. The prior owner had this practice
> and recommended it to me, which I have always used. Engine has more
> than 400 hours on it now. Fortunately, I have no signs of oil
> leaking.
>
> Rob
>
> "Hermann F. Fasel" <faselh@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> wrote:
> During the annual inspection of my 131SX the mechanic found a very
> small oil
> leak coming from the oil pump. After opening the pump he discovered some wear
> inside the casing. As a consequence, he said that the pump has to be
> replaced -
> of course this is a major expense. Did anyone have similar problem?
> The engine
> has only 200 total hours!
> He thinks that the problem might be caused by not 'hand-cranking' the prop
> before starting the engine. I always do that since I bought the airplane 100
> engine hours ago. Of course I have no guarantee what the previous owner did.
>
> Thanks
> Hermann
>
>
> Hermann F. Fasel
> Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering
> University of Arizona
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
> Tel.: 520-621-2771
> Fax: 520-621-8191
>
>
> Quoting XimangoUSA@AOL.COM:
>
>> John,
>>
>> The American people that have taken the Rotax Course from Rotec in Canada
>> are certainly known to Rotec, so I suggest you e-mail Rob Seaton at
>> _RobS@rotec.com_ (mailto:RobS@rotec.com) .
>>
>> He is in charge of the maintenance training for the 912/914 series engines
>> in North America and is a very knowledgable fellow!.
>>
>> Chuck Cheeseman, President
>> Ximango USA
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