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  • Are any of you finding ablation of the pin (rivet) by the exhaust, so that
    the effectiveness of the pin (rivet) is lost?  We have one suspected instance of
    this and are trying to get a better understanding of the problem.

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    Date:         Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:38:54 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         XimangoUSA@AOL.COM
    Subject:      Exhaust Clamps
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    Ximango Owners,

    The newer exhaust clamps which are used to clamp the pipe to the muffler (PN
    61625) have a rivet welded into them to act as a locating/holding pin.  This
    is to keep the muffler from sagging and touching the lower cowl.

    Are any of you finding ablation of the pin (rivet) by the exhaust, so that
    the effectiveness of the pin (rivet) is lost?  We have one suspected instance of
    this and are trying to get a better understanding of the problem.

    Please let us know what you have experienced.

    Ximango USA
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    Date:         Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:52:00 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         XimangoUSA@AOL.COM
    Subject:      Exhaust Clamps
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    Ximango Owners,

    The newer exhaust clamps which are used to clamp the pipe to the muffler (PN
    61625) have a rivet welded into them to act as a locating/holding pin.  This
    is to keep the muffler from sagging and touching the lower cowl.

    Are any of you finding ablation of the pin (rivet) by the exhaust, so that
    the effectiveness of the pin (rivet) is lost?  We have one suspected instance
    of
    this and are trying to get a better understanding of the problem.

    Please let us know what you have experienced.

    Ximango USA
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    Date:         Thu, 12 Jun 2003 22:23:05 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         SMOLLET3@AOL.COM
    Subject:      Re: Exhaust Clamps
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    CHUCK:  IF ONE OF OUR PIPES STARTS WORKING OUT LIKE THEY USED TO I'LL LET YOU
    KNOW, BUT IT SEEMS UNLIKELY.
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    Date:         Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:39:14 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Rgbazma@AOL.COM
    Subject:      Re: Exhaust Clamps
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    Chuck, since I bought 131 the lower cowling has had a burn mark on it from
    contacting the exhaust system. I keep replacing the insulation material at that
    spot. Dick Brown
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    Date:         Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:54:51 -0700
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Roland Martin <roland_martin@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Exhaust Clamps
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    Dick,
    I had the same problem starting about a year after I got my #97. I too replaced
    insulation and epoxy/glass until I found the root cause for the sagging
    exhaust: the clamps lost the pin.

    Take the exhaust by the air inlet tube. If you can move that tube with moderate
    force by 1/4 of an inch or more, check the clamps for missing pins.

    Regards, Roland.


    --- Rgbazma@AOL.COM wrote:
    > Chuck, since I bought 131 the lower cowling has had a burn mark on it from
    > contacting the exhaust system. I keep replacing the insulation material at
    > that
    > spot. Dick Brown


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    Roland Martin
    7 Spring Lane
    Chadds Ford, PA 19317 USA
    (610) 558 7852

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    Date:         Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:40:49 EDT
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Rgbazma@AOL.COM
    Subject:      Re: Exhaust Clamps
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    Thanks Roland,
    Dick Brown
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    Date:         Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:06:51 +1000
    Reply-To:     Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       Ximango Owners Group <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Sandra M <shemango@BIGPOND.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Exhaust Clamps
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    G'day Dick, Roland & Xoggers,

    I know when 200-064 was new there was a problem with lower cowl burning,
    this time around the exhaust pipe area. It required a Major Plastic Surgery
    repair job.

    Cheerio,
    Sandra
    VH-ZBN

     ----- Original Message -----
    From: <Rgbazma@AOL.COM>
    To: <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:39 AM
    Subject: Re: Exhaust Clamps


    > Chuck, since I bought 131 the lower cowling has had a burn mark on it from
    > contacting the exhaust system. I keep replacing the insulation material at
    that
    > spot. Dick Brown


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