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  • I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. =
    You can order it online from www.summitracing.com     or 1 800 230 3030. It =
    worked fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

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    Date:         Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:58:39 -0400
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I thi=
    nk mentioned. But it's beefier,=20
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.=20=


    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is th=
    e best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce
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    Date:         Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:32:12 -0500
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    From:         Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. =
    You can order it online from www.summitracing.com     or 1 800 230 3030. It =
    worked fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards
    =A0
    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:=A0 512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On =
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I =
    think mentioned. But it's beefier,=20
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap. =


    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is =
    the best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce
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    Date:         Fri, 6 Jul 2007 00:15:32 -0700
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    From:         Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    Hi Guys,
      
      I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 2" Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it up with a sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine.  I ended up using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the wraps continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I could smell the new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
      
      Rob

    Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards
     
    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:  512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce
    =========================================================================
    Date:         Fri, 6 Jul 2007 06:41:20 -0700
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Roland Martin <roland_martin@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    MIME-Version: 1.0
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    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.
     
    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,
      
      I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 2" Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it up with a sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine.  I ended up using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the wraps continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I could smell the new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
      
      Rob

    Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:  512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce


          
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    Date:         Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:12:05 -0400
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    In-Reply-To:  <406331.25629.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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    The copper-coated upgrade to the wrap sounds like a good idea. The 
    techie at the Speed Shop says the copper coating eliminates the need 
    to spray. And it's only $10 more. Sounds like a good idea to me!

    Thanks, Roland.

    Bruce
    On Jul 6, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Roland Martin wrote:

    > Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 
    > installed. It seems to last longer than what I used previously 
    > (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    > The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty 
    > fibrous dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to 
    > spend the few incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is 
    > available from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their 
    > recommended length in the installation procedure printed on the 
    > package. Read the small print regarding the additional length 
    > needed for each bend of the pipe.
    >
    > Roland Martin
    > S/N 97
    > (610) 558 7852
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    >
    > Hi Guys,
    >
    >   I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 
    > 2" Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it 
    > up with a sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech 
    > (aluminum color), which comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic 
    > and masking tape when preping to use the spray to avoid overspray 
    > on other parts of the engine.  I ended up using 2 rolls of the 
    > wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length to cover 
    > the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried 
    > to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the 
    > wraps continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I 
    > could smell the new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running 
    > time on the engine, and slowly the smell of the wrap heating up 
    > completely dissapeared.
    >
    >   Rob
    >
    > Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
    >   Hi Bruce,
    >
    > I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: 
    > THE-11002. You can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 
    > 800 230 3030. It worked fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Horst Stratmann
    > UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    > Tel:  512 266 0132
    > Fax: 512 266 0133
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) 
    > [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    > I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.
    >
    > (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a 
    > month.)
    >
    > For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone 
    > I think mentioned. But it's beefier,
    > I'm told.
    >
    > I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, 
    > rap.
    >
    > Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what 
    > is the best width?
    >
    > thanks in advance for your help.
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    >
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    Date:         Fri, 6 Jul 2007 21:34:20 EDT
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Chuck Cheeseman <XimangoUSA@AOL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: Re tail wheel rubbers
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    IF you USA owners want to stay legal in the FAA system and change your 
    tailwheel rubbers, call us.  We can furnish parts with  paperwork to do this.  It
    is not much more expensive and it will keep  your insurance broker happy.
     
    Ditto to the rest of you in the rest of the world, like Australia.
     
    Chuck
    Ximango USA



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    Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:10:46 +1000
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    In-Reply-To:  <406331.25629.qm@web52310.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.
     
    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,
      
      I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine.  I ended up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried
    to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
      
      Rob

    Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:  512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce


          
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    Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2007 03:47:20 -0700
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         john adbin <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    Paul,
    The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and excite the pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate the heat away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me know . I am sure I can help.
    regards john a


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.

    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,
      
      I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine.  I ended up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried
    to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
      
      Rob

    Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:  512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce


          
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    Date:         Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:56:41 -0700
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
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    From:         Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    Paul,
      
      Check out this site for more info..
      
      http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp
      
      Though I'm not convinced wrapping the pipes is good for the extended life of the pipes, I do think wrap helps to get more of the heat away from (and outside) the engine and other components of the engine.  Our Ximango's have tightly cowled engines, and if you are climbing out on a nice hot day in the southwest USA in July, the last thing you really want is to have more heat in the engine compartment. 
      
      Rob

    john adbin <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
      Paul,
    The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and excite the pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate the heat away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me know . I am sure I can help.
    regards john a


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: paul harrington
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.

    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,

    I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago. I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce. I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can. Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine. I ended up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried
    to use. Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap. I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe. I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.

    Rob

    Horst Stratmann wrote:
    Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel: 512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce



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    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    Thanks John. I thought that may be the case. Of course, I don't have shares
    in the company that manufactures the tape.  Rgds, Paul H.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of john adbin
    Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2007 8:47 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Paul,
    The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and excite the
    pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have
    worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate the heat
    away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me know . I
    am sure I can help.
    regards john a


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.

    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan <ls-484@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,
      
      I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago.  I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce.  I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can.  Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine.  I ended up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried
    to use.  Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap.   I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe.  I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
      
      Rob

    Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM> wrote:
      Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:  512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce


          
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    Date:         Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:37:39 +1000
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         paul harrington <energy@WHITSUNDAY.NET.AU>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    In-Reply-To:  <804668.74422.qm@web82305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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    Thanks Rob,
                I will access that site.  I have a temp sensor in my engine
    compartment and live in the tropics where outside air temperatures can get a
    little fierce. I have yet to see more than 51c on climb out, with cowl flaps
    open

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Rob Morgan
    Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 4:57 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Paul,
      
      Check out this site for more info..
      
      http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp
      
      Though I'm not convinced wrapping the pipes is good for the extended life
    of the pipes, I do think wrap helps to get more of the heat away from (and
    outside) the engine and other components of the engine.  Our Ximango's have
    tightly cowled engines, and if you are climbing out on a nice hot day in the
    southwest USA in July, the last thing you really want is to have more heat
    in the engine compartment. 
      
      Rob

    john adbin <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
      Paul,
    The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and excite the
    pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have
    worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate the heat
    away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me know . I
    am sure I can help.
    regards john a


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: paul harrington
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no 11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.

    Roland Martin
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,

    I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago. I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce. I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can. Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine. I ended up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then tried
    to use. Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap. I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe. I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.

    Rob

    Horst Stratmann wrote:
    Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel: 512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap.

    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce



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    Date:         Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:48:24 -0500
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Horst Stratmann <Horst.stratmann@UPCGROUP.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
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    What is the opinion of Aeromot and Ximango USA in this matter ?

    Best regards
    =A0
    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel:=A0 512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On =
    Behalf Of paul harrington
    Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:38 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Thanks Rob,
                I will access that site.  I have a temp sensor in my engine
    compartment and live in the tropics where outside air temperatures can =
    get a
    little fierce. I have yet to see more than 51c on climb out, with cowl =
    flaps
    open

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Rob Morgan
    Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 4:57 AM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Paul,
      =20
      Check out this site for more info..
      =20
      http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp
      =20
      Though I'm not convinced wrapping the pipes is good for the extended =
    life
    of the pipes, I do think wrap helps to get more of the heat away from =
    (and
    outside) the engine and other components of the engine.  Our Ximango's =
    have
    tightly cowled engines, and if you are climbing out on a nice hot day in =
    the
    southwest USA in July, the last thing you really want is to have more =
    heat
    in the engine compartment. =20
      =20
      Rob

    john adbin <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
      Paul,=20
    The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and excite =
    the
    pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have
    worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate the =
    heat
    away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me know . =
    I
    am sure I can help.
    regards john a


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: paul harrington=20
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the pipes. =
    Mine
    are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, here, =
    running
    the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Roland Martin
    Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 installed. It
    seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part no =
    11002).
    The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty fibrous
    dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the few
    incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended length =
    in
    the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small print
    regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.

    Roland Martin=20
    S/N 97
    (610) 558 7852


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Rob Morgan=20
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?


    Hi Guys,

    I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago. I used a 2"
    Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce. I finished it up with a
    sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), which
    comes in a spray can. Use lots of plastic and masking tape when preping =
    to
    use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine. I ended =
    up
    using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT more =
    length
    to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and then =
    tried
    to use. Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap. I made all the wraps
    continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe. I could smell the
    new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, and
    slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.

    Rob

    Horst Stratmann wrote:
    Hi Bruce,

    I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: THE-11002. =
    You
    can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It =
    worked
    fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00

    Best regards

    Horst Stratmann
    UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    Tel: 512 266 0132
    Fax: 512 266 0133

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?

    I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.

    (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a month.)

    For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone I =
    think
    mentioned. But it's beefier,=20
    I'm told.

    I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, rap. =


    Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what is =
    the
    best width?

    thanks in advance for your help.

    Bruce



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    Date:         Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:55:54 -0400
    Reply-To:     "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    Sender:       "Ximango Owners Group (XOG)" <XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM>
    From:         Bruce Schimmel <bruce@SCHIMMEL.COM>
    Subject:      Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    Comments: cc: Luiz Castilho <luiz.castilho@aeromot.com.br>,
              cviana@aeromot.com.br
    In-Reply-To:  <B865A80A0204B24FB6F6F1A2CDFB6FEA1C145F@UPCMAIL.upcgroup.local>
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    I have written to Aeromot to see if they will consider producing a 
    letter or a SB on the subject of ceramic coatings in lieu of wrapping.

    I sent the letter yesterday, Monday. And I'll let you know when I 
    hear from them.

    yrs, Bruce

    On Jul 10, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Horst Stratmann wrote:

    > What is the opinion of Aeromot and Ximango USA in this matter ?
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Horst Stratmann
    > UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    > Tel:  512 266 0132
    > Fax: 512 266 0133
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) 
    > [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of paul harrington
    > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:38 PM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    > Thanks Rob,
    >             I will access that site.  I have a temp sensor in my 
    > engine
    > compartment and live in the tropics where outside air temperatures 
    > can get a
    > little fierce. I have yet to see more than 51c on climb out, with 
    > cowl flaps
    > open
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) 
    > [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    > Behalf Of Rob Morgan
    > Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2007 4:57 AM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    > Paul,
    >
    >   Check out this site for more info..
    >
    >   http://www.centuryperformance.com/heatwraps.asp
    >
    >   Though I'm not convinced wrapping the pipes is good for the 
    > extended life
    > of the pipes, I do think wrap helps to get more of the heat away 
    > from (and
    > outside) the engine and other components of the engine.  Our 
    > Ximango's have
    > tightly cowled engines, and if you are climbing out on a nice hot 
    > day in the
    > southwest USA in July, the last thing you really want is to have 
    > more heat
    > in the engine compartment.
    >
    >   Rob
    >
    > john adbin <adbinoutdoor@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
    >   Paul,
    > The reason for using wrap around the exhaust is to promote and 
    > excite the
    > pipes into crackng and producing pin holes. People who drive cars have
    > worked out long ago that it is better to allow the pipes dissapate 
    > the heat
    > away from thte pipes. Anything else that is a concern just let me 
    > know . I
    > am sure I can help.
    > regards john a
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: paul harrington
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:10:46 PM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    >
    > Can someone give me some idea of why it is necessary to wrap the 
    > pipes. Mine
    > are uncovered and I can't say that I have seen other aircraft, 
    > here, running
    > the 912 with insulation. Paul H. VH-KIR
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) 
    > [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    > Behalf Of Roland Martin
    > Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 11:41 PM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    > Currently I have 2" Thermo-Tec Generation II part no 11032 
    > installed. It
    > seems to last longer than what I used previously (Thermo-Tec part 
    > no 11002).
    > The last batch of 11002 disintegrated quickly developing a nasty 
    > fibrous
    > dust everywhere in the engine compartment. I recommend to spend the 
    > few
    > incremental dollars for 'Generation II'. It is available from
    > www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. I used their recommended 
    > length in
    > the installation procedure printed on the package. Read the small 
    > print
    > regarding the additional length needed for each bend of the pipe.
    >
    > Roland Martin
    > S/N 97
    > (610) 558 7852
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----
    > From: Rob Morgan
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 3:15:32 AM
    > Subject: Re: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    >
    > Hi Guys,
    >
    > I re-wrapped my exhaust pipes a little over a year ago. I used a 2"
    > Thermo-Tec wrap that I got from Aircraft Spruce. I finished it up 
    > with a
    > sealer coating, which I think was called Hi Tech (aluminum color), 
    > which
    > comes in a spray can. Use lots of plastic and masking tape when 
    > preping to
    > use the spray to avoid overspray on other parts of the engine. I 
    > ended up
    > using 2 rolls of the wrap, discovering that it really took a LOT 
    > more length
    > to cover the pipes than what I had cut off from the 1st roll and 
    > then tried
    > to use. Bends in the pipes take LOTS of wrap. I made all the wraps
    > continuous from the beginning to the end of each pipe. I could 
    > smell the
    > new wrap for about the next 10 hours of running time on the engine, 
    > and
    > slowly the smell of the wrap heating up completely dissapeared.
    >
    > Rob
    >
    > Horst Stratmann wrote:
    > Hi Bruce,
    >
    > I use Thermo-Tec Header Wrap, 2" wide x 50' roll, item no: 
    > THE-11002. You
    > can order it online from www.summitracing.com or 1 800 230 3030. It 
    > worked
    > fine with me. It cost about $ 40.00
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Horst Stratmann
    > UPC Interpipe, Inc.
    > Tel: 512 266 0132
    > Fax: 512 266 0133
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Ximango Owners Group (XOG) 
    > [mailto:XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM] On
    > Behalf Of Bruce Schimmel
    > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
    > To: XIMANGO@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
    > Subject: new exhaust stack, recommended wrap, amount?
    >
    > I just got my new exhaust pipes from Ximango.
    >
    > (Which is pretty good in terms of time, since it's been about a 
    > month.)
    >
    > For those interested: it still has elbows -- not smooth, as someone 
    > I think
    > mentioned. But it's beefier,
    > I'm told.
    >
    > I have a question about the wrap. Some wraps have gotten a bad, uh, 
    > rap.
    >
    > Are there certain brands or suppliers you could recommend? And what 
    > is the
    > best width?
    >
    > thanks in advance for your help.
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    >
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