Abstract: I have a broken variable pitch prop cable. I have tried to get a hold of XimangoUSA, but have not yet received a reply. I am gounded until I can get a replacement.
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Thread : Broken Variable Pitch Prop Cable
Started at 14th-April-2010 10:43 PM by mwestphal
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Date : 14th-April-2010 10:43 PM
Thread Title : Broken Variable Pitch Prop Cable
The cable has a special end on it that has to be specially bonded to the cable end.
Does anyone have a spare cable they are willing to sell or borrow?
Does anyone know of somewhere I could purchase one or have one made?
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Date : 16th-April-2010 02:58 AM
Don't know if it'll work for a Ximango (I haven't looked that close at the cable ends) but Aircraft Spruce custom makes cables in most any common diameter and any length. I've had then make several in my former life as a homebuilder. Incidentally, I'm getting the same response from XimangoUSA on clear wingtip lenses -- I'm planning on installing LED nav/strobe lights for greater visibility.
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Date : 16th-April-2010 10:36 PM
I have a set of wing-tip lens for my ximango #113, which I'm never going to install. gimme a rattle at bruce@schimmel.com, and let's work something out.
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Date : 18th-April-2010 02:17 PM
In regard to the wingtip lenses, I wonder if Aeromot made them or if they had them made? If Aeromot isn't going to support the fleet with parts like this since they are essentially shut down maybe they would be willing to give us the vendor name so we could have a run made? I wouldn't mind having another set just so I won't break my first set.
In regard to the cable, I'd bet ACS can make the part. I've noticed a lot of things on the Ximango that are available from ACS.
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Date : 19th-April-2010 07:57 PM
Have you tried the Ximango web site down in Brazil? Grupo Aeromot? Just my 2 cents.
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Date : 20th-April-2010 07:09 AM
Thread Title : Factory Support
Have you tried the Ximango web site down in Brazil? Grupo Aeromot? Just my 2 cents.
Welcome to XOPA Jim. Actually, the factory has been on furlough for almost a year now. So we are all anxious about parts, and hope to see a limited supply in the future.
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Date : 20th-April-2010 08:36 AM
Thread Title : Mark, Welcome to My Nightmare
N319BS has been AOG @ KSAT for months with the same problem.
A legal fix may finally be in the works. I'll update this forum if/as anything happens.
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Date : 22nd-April-2010 03:00 AM
A separate e-mail is off to you also, but, for everyone, We will have prop cables (cables only, not the complete assembly) in stock here at Spruce Creek late next week on/about April 30, price $75 plus postage, including installation drawing and Aeromot part tag.) Please e-mail me if you need one or want a spare on hand. If anyone develops a prop cable problem, be sure to keep all the bits and pieces for the attachments at the prop end and the lever end. These have changed in configuration several times over the years and its a lot easier to use the old pieces that fit your plane rather than try to figure out with the factory which configuration you have. Also, please note that the replacement cable must be fed forward from the cockpit end to the engine compartment, then measured and fitted to the prop change mechanism. The swaged Nicopress is a field-installed step, so you or your mechanic need to have access to a Nicopress tool.
Chuck Cheeseman at XimangoUSA@aol.com
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Date : 23rd-April-2010 05:55 PM
my ship came with strobe lights and the manufacturer is Whelen, Whelen Engineering - 1-860-526-9504 (http://www.whelen.com/home.php)
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Date : 24th-April-2010 03:05 AM
Thanks. I'm familiar with the Whelen equipment (they are listed in my 'approved equipment' list). I'm going with the AveoFlash units for several reasons: (1) they only weigh about 1.5 ounces each; (2) they are self contained & don't require a power supply box like Whelen; (3) you only have to run 18 gage 12V wire -- no high voltage cable; (4) they produce no radio interference which the Whelen system can, especially if it is not grounded carefully. Assuming this goes as planned, I'll end up with an approved 337 which I'll make available to the Ximango community.
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If you want to sell those lenses, let me know!
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If someone can come up with a fair price, I'll hold a lottery.
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Van's gets $37.25 each for very similar wingtip lenses. Please include me in the lottery. We'll be out of the country till June 1.
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I'm happy to pay $50 each if you include standard airmail to Australia.
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I'm still interested in those lenses!
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changed my mind. sorry. gonna keep 'em and install 'em myself.
how in the world are we gonna get replacement parts?
fellow xogers:...what would it take to buy the rights and have the stuff fabricated here? I mean perhaps they could be licensed on a per piece basis? Otherwise, maybe we should buy the grounded air force trainers for spare parts?
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Jim McCann told me all the Air Force Academy Ximango's were distributed out to CAP units except four that went to Edwards AFB for "research" and two that might have gone to a Sheriff's Department in Alabama.
Do you know if the Aeromot factory closed for good? The President of Aeromot said a while back in a letter that Aeromot intended to support the fleet during the factory furlough.
It's hard for me to believe that they're having trouble selling this fine machine. It significantly outperforms the Lambada, Dimona, Grob 109, and Katana. Probably the Taurus, too, from what I've been told by folks who have flown it. I've heard directly from four people who've flown the Taurus and every one of them said the factory performance numbers are grossly overstated.
I'm having an absolute ball with my Ximango. I just passed the 400 hour mark. We get a constant stream of pilots coming through our shop for glider repairs. My Ximango sits right outside the door in another part of my hangar. Every glider pilot I've shown it to and/or taken for a ride has the same reaction: WOW! Most glider folks I've shown mine to have never seen one.
I'd bet if Aeromot would do a little promotional push and hit all the airshows this summer they could get quite a few orders, even in a down economy. I've never seen them display at any of the SSA conventions I've attended and I've never seen them display at Sun-n-Fun or other such airshows. They may have displayed, I just haven't seen it. Until I went to look at mine before I bought it I'd never seen a Ximango close up and I've been a glider enthusiast for over 30 years. The promo pictures I've seen all show it with the engine running, too. The Ximango is really a pretty decent glider. I've soared thermals, ridge and wave here and done several long powered cross country flights in it. It's a fantastic all around flying machine and it's hard to beat the convenience factor of being able to go soar right now, IOW, not needing a tow.
Motorgliders are, without a doubt, increasing in numbers in the USA as more and more glider tow operations shut down due to liability exposure. Seems to me like the market is ripe for the pickin', but when you're selling something you can't wait for people to find you. Ain't gonna happen.
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As far as I know, no owner has been able to contact the factory directly, and Aeromot's president has not responded to multiple emails from me.
I put in an order for some 10-year replacement hoses with Chuck over 3 months ago, and have gotten neither a shipping date nor a price.
So I suspect that the Ximanago factory is barely operational, if at all, and will remain so for a long while.
In cases like this, owners groups have brought the rights to have critical parts manufactured.
Do anyone know how this can be done?
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What hoses do you need? Have you tried Lockwood or California Power Systems? I don't notice anything special about any of the hoses on my engine compared to Rotax's I've seen in other airplanes. The oil feed and return lines to and from the oil tank might be custom in terms of length, but the rest appear to be stock Rotax parts. Lockwood should have all the coolant lines, fuel lines and associated hardware in stock. As far as the oil lines any decent A&P should be able to make up a set if that's what you need. I think they're just Aeroquip lines with fire sleeve on them. If not, there certainly should be an approved substitute available. Have a chat with Kerry at Lockwood and I bet he can fix you up pronto.
As far as the rest of the parts on the airplane it seems that there are a lot of proprietary metal fittings and such on the Ximango. If you need some of that type stuff it might be a problem. There's quite a bit of "off the shelf" stuff on the Ximango, too, most of which is available through Aircraft Spruce. My guess is Aeromot would want a left nut for the rights to the proprietary parts. Of course, if anybody needs composite repairs, a canopy replaced or a refinish for gel coat crazing we can help. I'm reasonably sure the canopy is made by Mecaplex. We can usually get those direct. In fact, we're doing a canopy on a Lambada now, just set it and bonded it on yesterday, and Urban Air (maker of the Lambada) is out of business. The canopy came from a different canopy supplier in Europe, but it was still available despite Urban Air's demise.
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Here are the hoses I'm trying to get. It's been three months since I queried the factory (through Chuck) and haven't gotten a quote or delivery date. Anyone have experience getting these made?
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Mark's prop cables (2) were FedEx-ed to him last month and we e-mailed him a scan of the installation drawing that was inadvertently left out of the package. W have two more in stock for anyone who needs one.
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Date : 17th-June-2010 02:02 AM
One of my fuel lines sprung a leak today, or more likely I noticed it today while synchronizing my carbs. I talked to Kerry at Lockwood and although he didn't have the part I needed in stock he's having one drop shipped to me. I don't know if it's coming from Austria or Canada. My guess would be Canada. Should arrive hopefully be the weekend. The bad news is you have to buy the fuel pump to get the lines. It comes as a set, $750 worth.
So, assuming he sends me the right parts the fuel hoses from the gascolator to the banjo fitting and from the banjo fitting to the fuel pump, along with the return line that goes to the firewall is available through Lockwood. I specifically told Kerry this was going on a Ximango and he said he knew the correct part I needed with all the right fittings on either end.
I sure am glad I found this today and not next week in Moose Butt, OK while on my way out to Minden!
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